[Council House, Assembly Room] The high ceiling is coffer-paneled in oak, polished to such a high gleam that it reflects back light from any source. Grey-green tapestries hang from brass poles set at intervals along the white walls. Floor standing candleholders bear thick, yellowed candles that gleam softly, casting a golden glow over the room. A bright light shines down upon the podium at the front of the room. Also here: GameMaster Brude, and the citizens of Athens. Obvious exits: out. >You sit down. >Xanthian asks, "They think?" >Puggy says, "Unlike you." >Brude nods. >Puggy clears his throat. >Xanthian scratches his head. >The butterfly on Heartsong's hip suddenly springs into the air, circles her several times, and comes to rest on her other hip. >Brude says, "Their awareness of their surroundings and their ability to make decisions has been redone entirely." >Suddenly the orichalc fox about Palus's neck blinks its eyes and wakes, slinking downward to loop around his waist, but not before tickling him on the nose with its bushy tail! A maroon haze suddenly pours off Puggy's body and falls through the solid surface of the floor! >Brude says, "They'll know who is an enemy and who is a friend." >Brude says, "They'll know generally how dangerous a given situation is for them." >Brude says, "Knowing all of this, they are better able to decide whether to fight or flee, and who to fight, and how to fight." >Brude says, "The ability to make decisions, also allows them to take advantage of abilities that they hadn't had before." Brude says, "One basic ability is acrobatics." >Xanthian lets out a hearty cheer for Brude! >Llorien joins Ralenth's group. >Palus babbles incoherently. >Brude says, "Leaping, backflipping, and tumbling. The latter two come into play with their ability to know when to retreat and run." >Ralenth gazes at Llorien. >Xanthian exclaims, "I don't have to leap anymore! I'll let the dead bodies come to me!!" >Brude says, "All these abilities are skill based, just as they are for you." >Kannon joins Ralenth's group. >Gloomthryn grows visibly calmer. >Brude says, "And not all will have them." >Brude says, "There are also changes to the way critters engage in combat, aside from the acrobatics." >Brude says, "They can use dual weapons. And they can decided what is the most advantageous combination of weapons or weapon and shield for them." >Brude says, "They also understand stance to a degree." Brude says, "They'll know if you're stanced up, know what position they have around you, know whether you're prone, stunned, webbed, etc." Destrution blinks. >Brude says, "And that might have an impact on what attack form they choose." >Brude says, "Critters will have, in essence, personalities." >Ralenth looks at Brude and grows pale. >Phalo says, "great now they'll talk back" >Ralenth giggles at Phalo. >Brude says, "The makeup of those personalities are the primary factors in determining what actions they take." >Brude chuckles at Phalo. >Brude says, "Some will be more aggressive than others. Some will be braver than others. Some will be more inclined to help allies than others." >Brude says, "Among other things." >Brude says, "Critters will also obey roundtimes, something they've had trouble with in the past." >Fujikaza says, "This is truely intriguing." >Brude says, "In general, that will make them slightly faster. At least, for most critters." >Brude says, "Some critters, by their nature, might be slightly slower or, in rare cases, slighly faster than you would expect executing an certain move." >Brude says, "But overall, they will be obeying roundtimes." >Lifting its beak, a tiny brown sparrow whistles a few soft, twittering notes before falling silent. >Brude says, "Not all critters will be hostile." Brude says, "Critters can be good, evil, or neutral." >Lurker Alessandra just arrived. >Nutopea just arrived. >Alessandra sits down. >Mezznar just arrived. >Brude says, "The good guys won't attack you unless you or your minion has attacked another good critter fairly recently." >Nutopea sits down. >Brude says, "Evil critters will always regard you as enemies." >Heartsong asks, "Is there a way of knowing which is which?" >Fujikaza asks, "Will these good critters need saved from the evil ones?" >Brude says, "Neutral critters will regard you as potential enemies, but might not be inclined to act on that." >Xanthian nods to Heartsong. >Llorien coughs. >Brude nods to Heartsong. >Xanthian says, "He just said." >Brude says, "That's something I'm looking into." >Brude tilts his head toward Fujikaza. >Xanthian says, "If they take a pop at ya, pop 'em back cuz they're evil." >Xanthian shrugs. >Brude says, "Neutral critters will be more likely to attack if they feel threatened, much as an animal would." >Destrution says, "Might Be Good To Know Beforehand" >Fujikaza says, "I would like to have things to save." >Fujikaza smiles. >Heartsong nods to Fujikaza. Pirate Vatholian just arrived. >Brude says, "Along with these other changes, there will be a small skill increase." >Nutopea asks, "you can measure them to find out if they are good or bad I'm assuming?" >Brude says, "I'll get to that. Questions are later." >Fujikaza nods. Brude says, "I want to emphasize the 'small' in that." Brude says, "It is quite likely you won't notice much change at all in any given fight or hunt." >Xanthian asks, "Ah, so they won't be cultist trained then?" >Xanthian snaps his fingers. >Brude chuckles at Xanthian. >Brude says, "Some will." >Xanthian beams at Brude! >Brude says, "Some critters might see a larger skill increase, but that is up to the individual owners." >Brude says, "Now, a few folks asked about telling good from bad and so forth." >Brude says, "MEASURE has been adjusted to do that." >Brude says, "It can also give information on resistances and vulnerabilities to various damage types." >Phalo shifts her weight. >Brude says, "This new information from MEASURE does have a level and skill basis with it." >Kannon leans on Llorien. >Brude says, "Animals will be easier to measure if you have, for the moment foraging. Supernatural type critters will be easier to measure if you have lore." >A jeweled butterfly begins to crawl up Heartsong's body and then up Heartsong's neck to settle, open winged on her earlobe. >The blood slowly drains from Destrution's face. Brude says, "After reallocation, the skills involved will be changed to the relevant new skill." >Heartsong stands up. >Brude says, "I believe that those with magical abilities, you might also be able to determine with MEASURE as well." Brude says, "Ah." >Brude says, "One other basic change." >Brude says, "Critter searching has been rewritten." >Nutopea groans. >Ralenth gazes at Brude. Destrution mutters something under his breath. >Brude says, "They'll search a little smarter." >Xanthian snaps his fingers. >Puggy says, "Good." >Xanthian asks, "No more baiting?" >Brude says, "And they will be able to search even if another enemy is visible in the room." >Xanthian mutters something under his breath. >Xanthian says, "There goes my business." Nutopea giggles at Xanthian. >Alessandra grins at Xanthian. >Ruffling its feathers, a tiny brown sparrow sings a few twittering notes on Puggy's shoulder before falling silent. >Gloomthryn picks up a small spider. Brude says, "Whether or not they search at all, like everything else, will depend on their personality." >Gloomthryn tosses aside his spider. Brude says, "When these changes come out, they will also come with revised spellcasting for critters." >The blood slowly drains from Destrution's face. >Brude says, "Spellcasting critters will choose their spells a little more intelligently." >Puggy says, "Excellent." >Palus nods to Puggy. >Brude says, "And spellcasting will be more accessible for critter designers." >Palus says, "Makes hunting more fun" >Puggy nods to Palus. >You nod to Palus. >Ralenth asks, "critter designers?" >Tkeeri just arrived followed by Kalipso. >Brude says, "The GMs who create specific critters." >Ralenth says, "Oh" >Tkeeri sits at Kalipso's feet. >Kalipso sits down next to Tkeeri. >Brude says, "In the future, I plan to allow traps, songs and sonics, alchemy, and, of course, ranged weapons." >Palus mutters helixs.... >The blood slowly drains from Palus's face. >Brude nods to Palus. >Brude says, "Essentially, any player ability I think critters might like, I will be taking a hard look at giving to them." >Xanthian asks, "Talking?" >Brude chuckles at Xanthian. >Ralenth says, "They already do that" >Palus asks, "They will be able to ambush too right?" >Ralenth says, "At least the ones that can." >Tkeeri says, "just make the nymphs stop winking at me...it gives me the creeps" >Xanthian says, "Well, they are supposed to be alive, aren't they." >Brude says, "If they want to be...sociable, critter owners can make them." >Kalipso nods to Tkeeri. >Ralenth snickers at Tkeeri. >Brude says, "Ambush is also a not-yet ability, but it is planned." >Kannon says, "Now that would be funny. To make a bet with a troll on who'd die first." >Zhana stands up. >You grin at Tkeeri. >Phalo asks, "eww that mean they may wanna cuddle before they kill you?" >Ralenth cackles at Kannon! >Llorien says, "You should hear the satyrs, they're hilarious." >Tkeeri grins at Phalo. >Ralenth blinks at Phalo. >Ralenth chortles. >Tkeeri says, "which would make me kill them that much quicker" >Llorien says, "They want to do more than cuddle ya." >Tkeeri winks at Phalo. >Brude says, "Actually, they can ambush, but only if they hide, and hiding hasn't been given to critters in general." >Xanthian grins at Llorien. >Ralenth looks at Llorien and grows pale. >Palus nods to Brude. >Destrution chuckles. >Brude says, "Okay, now I'll take questions. Raise your hands and I'll call on each in turn." >Llorien raises her hand. >Xanthian asks, "Ah, so that's why we've had invisible trolls swinging at us then?" >Puggy removes a moonstone owl-hilted, centaur-etched silver longsword from his etched leather cape. >Destrution raises his hand. >Brude asks, "Llorien?" >Puggy puts a moonstone owl-hilted, centaur-etched silver longsword in a sweeping etched leather cape. >Puggy raises his hand. >Llorien says, "Say we're hunting with a priest and a magic wielding critter starts casting, so I rub a crystal." >Llorien says, "in every room." >Llorien smiles. >Brude says, "Then the priest can't cast in those rooms." >Llorien asks, "I don't think that's too fair to priests. Have you given that thought?" >Brude says, "Yes." >Llorien says, "How can I as a warrior hunt with priests then? If I have no recourse." >Heartsong just arrived. >Xanthian says, "I don't think you could get 7 or 8 crystals every hour." >Heartsong sits down. >Xanthian says, "There are spells to combat spells." >Xanthian nods to Llorien. >Xanthian lightly touches his hammer relic ring and invokes the name of Zeus. Xanthian's hands begin to glow with mystic energy. >Palus says, "That is that shield" >Brude says, "That is something you and the priest would have to discuss." >Brude says, "Critters that want to cast will cast if they can. There are a fair number that do already." >Tkeeri nods to Phalo. >Brude says, "Badly, but they do." >Phalo gives Tkeeri a smooch. >Kannon raises his hand. >Tkeeri hugs Phalo. >Llorien says, "The other question I have is when these critters run to other rooms, and we have to chase them down, are we supposed to have to state CHASING like in GS? " >Llorien smirks. >Brude chuckles. >Nutopea groans. >Llorien grins at Brude. >Brude says, "That's up to you how you want to handle it." >Llorien says, "Looks like we'll have to do that folks." >Brude says, "Critters aren't exactly quick to run." >Llorien says, "I saw the tumbling ones already." >Brude nods to Llorien. >Llorien says, "they're pretty fast." >Llorien grins at Brude. >The mystic glow of energy fades from Xanthian's hands. >Brude says, "If they feel way outclassed, they are more likely to run." >Xanthian grins at Llorien. >Mezznar says, "normally if a injured critter ran in you didn't just pummel it without seeing if someone was in persuit" >Llorien asks, "So I'll have a problem hunting with just about everyone else?" >Llorien nods to Tkeeri. >Xanthian asks, "How much more could they be outclassed, Llor?" >Llorien says, "Luckily it does show injured of course." >A tiny brown sparrow hops on Puggy's shoulder, ruffling its feathers quickly before settling down. >Nutopea raises her hand. >Brude says, "Having ranged as a backup might be helpful." >Nutopea asks, "will critters attack other cirtters?" >Brude says, "Please wait your turn." >Llorien says, "I'll remember that Brude." >Llorien nods to Brude. >Brude says, "Also, you can try to take steps to keep them from running." >Llorien says, "So I can kill it before it gets away." >Llorien flashes her teeth in a quick smile. >Brude says, "They won't always tumble." >Brude chuckles. >Xanthian chants: "Break their legs, break their legs, break their legs..." >Llorien asks, "What steps would warriors have to keep it from getting away?" >Ralenth cackles at Xanthian! >Puggy says, "Try knocking it to the ground, stops it from retreating." >Brude says, "At the moment, brawling moves designed to prone them." >Llorien says, "Alchemists have vines right? Priests webs, storytellers sonics, and rogues tripwires." >Xanthian says, "we have brawling." >Xanthian nods to Llorien. >Xanthian says, "And leg breaking." >Llorien says, "so we're all set." >Xanthian smirks. >Llorien grins at Xanthian. >Destrution gazes at Xanthian. >Destrution says, "Riiiggght." >Brude says, "The kind of rampant tumbling you saw isn't the norm." >Brude chuckles. >Llorien says, "Only problem is, they get up before I can swing." >Brude says, "Invasions aren't the norm." >Llorien nods to Brude. >Destrution says, "Alot You Cant Even Hold A Weapon" >Palus peers quizzically at Destrution. >Puggy squints at Destrution. >Brude asks, "Did you have anything else right now, Llorien?" >Destrution says, "Brawling" >Llorien says, "No, thanks Brude." >Brude nods to Llorien. >Destrution shrugs. Llorien smiles at Brude. Xanthian says, "Sweep works fine." >Xanthian nods to Destrution. >Brude says, "Okay, Destrution." >A butterfly charm suddenly hops, wings outspread, from Heartsong's earlobe to her shoulder, where it closes its wings and rests once more. >Destrution asks, "Okay a critter can backflip?" >Brude nods to Destrution. >Brude says, "Some can." >The fox around Palus's ankle slinks around and up his leg, curling itself contentedly into a ball at his waist. >Destrution asks, "I cant backflip how am i to get away when i can only tumble?" >Destrution says, "And im slow with all my weapons" >Xanthian says, "You can still tumble." >Destrution gazes at Xanthian. >Palus raises an eyebrow. >Puggy furrows his brow. >Xanthian starts to say something, then stops. >Destrution says, "Yes with rt" >Palus looks over at Xanthian and shakes his head. >Xanthian gazes at Brude apologetically. >Brude says, "If you want to get away, tumble." >Destrution glances at Xanthian. >Brude says, "The critters who can backflip are skilled enough to backflip." >Brude says, "When you are skilled enough to backflip, you will be able to backflip." >Destrution shakes his head. >Destrution says, "Okay" >Brude says, "Critter skills will fit within post-reallocation limits." >Brude says, "And most critters will not be as skilled as a player of the same level." >Destrution nods. >Destrution says, "Okay" >Xanthian asks, "You DO mean most, right?" >Brude says, "You will likely have to be more adaptible and versatile to hunt than in the past." >Destrution says, "Thats All" >Destrution looks at Ralenth and shrugs. >Brude says, "Most, yes." >Brude says, "Okay." Xanthian beams! >Kannon just left. >Brude says, "Puggy." >Pirate Vatholian just arrived followed by Deryni. >Puggy says, "I'm just wondering whether we'll be able to take critter relics for our own use." >Destrution asks, "Thats My Point We Havent Changed At All And Critters Are Getting Better?" >Brude nods to Puggy. >Brude says, "If you can get them." >Destrution shakes his head. >Palus asks, "And use the spells in them?" >Palus gazes at Brude. >Gloomthryn raises his hand. >Palus says, "Or do we ALWAYS have to take the "evil" out of them" >Brude says, "Evil critters will have the cursed relics." >Palus nods to Brude. >Puggy asks, "Are they going to be like the current critter relic system?" >Puggy says, "bah, fog." Puggy grumbles. >Palus says, "Right" >Brude says, "Good and neutral critters will have normal relics." >Puggy nods to Brude. >Palus asks, "Will they have warstaffs we can steal?" >Palus gazes at Brude. >Palus grins. >Brude chuckles. >Puggy ponders. >Puggy says, "Okay, that's all I really wanted to know. Thank ya." >Brude nods to Puggy. >Brude says, "The high-priced equipment is something that, yes, they will have, but no, you will not be very likely to get one from them. I'm still working on how to handle such things." >Brude asks, "Kannon?" >Palus says, "He went bye bye" >Palus nods to Brude. >Llorien says, "God's grabbed him I think." >Nutopea says, "he came back" >Kannon just arrived. >Kannon sits down next to Llorien. >Nutopea says, "see" >Brude grins at Kannon. >Llorien says, "there he is." >Palus draws attention to Kannon. >Brude says, "Just in time." >Brude says, "You're up." >Kannon chuckles. >Kannon joins Ralenth's group. >Kannon stands up. >Destrution chuckles. >Defender Gerett just arrived. >Gerett plops down onto the floor. >Palus says, "Plop" >Palus nods to Gerett. >Palus shifts into a more comfortable position. >Palus shifts his weight around. >Kannon asks, "I wanted to ask if maybe you could develop a spell or item of sorts that offers priests a minor immunity of sorts to the effects of the blue crystals?" >Brude says, "Hmm" >Brude says, "That's not my department. You might post such a suggestion to the boards." >Xanthian asks, "A defence to a defence?" >Xanthian starts to say something, then stops. >Kannon nods to Xanthian. >Ralenth looks at Xanthian and shrugs. >Ralenth says, "Why not." >Palus says, "More like, a defence and/or offense, to a defence" >Ralenth asks, "you attack in response toa ttacks... why not a defence for a defence?" >Kannon says, "Of course the item would crumble after a certain amount of time like a socra stone would from being rubbed too much." >Llorien says, "I just see this trying to hunt with your priest friends as going to be very difficult." >Xanthian asks, "Let's have scissors to cut up tripwires while we're at it, see where this is leading?" >Brude says, "Not all critters will be magic-users." >Puggy asks, "Who says you have to hunt magic critters?" >Gerett exclaims, "Just the smart ones!" >Puggy bites Gerett! >Llorien asks, "Well, what choices do I have?" >Gerett glances at Puggy. >Llorien tickles Puggy. >Gerett says, "Minus you." >Destrution nods to Llorien. >You say, "Tripwires do not impede priests abilities." >You shrug. >Puggy raises an eyebrow in Llorien's direction. >Puggy asks, "What are you hunting now?" >Gerett says, "Tripwires leave ya stunned." >Gerett says, "Impedes everybody." >Gerett says, "I'd say anyway." >Xanthian says, "Hmm, I suppose they don't, there's a spell against stuns." >Xanthian nods to Gerett. >Kannon says, "only in the arena" >Vatholian says, "Doesn't impede taurs" >Palus says, "Short lasting" >Gerett exclaims, "Racism!" >Palus nods to Xanthian. >Brude says, "Anyway, Kannon, I can't really comment on the crystals or any means to 'resist' them." >Ralenth giggles at Gerett. >Kannon nods. >Xanthian says, "Fights in the arena are too." >Xanthian nods to Palus. >Gloomthryn makes a shushing noise. >Brude says, "Like I said, you might suggest that on the boards." >Koronis raises her hand. >Kannon says, "Understood. Just something for you to whisper around in the GM circle." >Brude chuckles. >Puggy says, "Just get rid of the crystals, then we have no problem" >Puggy folds his arms across his chest. >Brude asks, "Okay, did you have anything else for the moment?" >Gerett plops his feet around on the ground. >Kannon says, "Not that I can immediately think of." >Brude says, "Okay." >Kannon sits down. >Destrution shakes his head. >Brude says, "Now, Nutopea." >Palus gazes at Nutopea. >Nutopea asks, "Will critters attack other critters, i.e. the good ones fight the bad ones etc?" >Brude says, "Yes." >Ralenth gets a thoughtful expression on her face. >Brude says, "That was one of the reasons I wanted to give critters alignments." Ralenth raises her hand. >Nutopea asks, "Will this affect our hunting a critter, if we have OTHER critter competition?" >Brude says, "They'll be assisting you, not competing." >Brude chuckles. >Nutopea says, "ok" >Nutopea grins at Brude. >Gerett ponders. >Brude says, "That's something I forgot to mention earlier." >Gerett mutters WE might compete. Brude mumbles to himself. >Nutopea says, "could see that getting ugly otherwise" >Xanthian ponders. >Palus asks, "will they try to steal the loot?" >Palus gazes at Brude. >Brude says, "Critters can help their allies, critters or players." >Xanthian says, "We gotta come up with a new word for critter." >Nutopea asks, "Can we try to steal the loot from feuding critters?" >Brude chuckles. >Brude says, "Critters won't search their kills." >Ralenth says, "they're not exactly critters anymore with these changes.. You're right Xan." >Nutopea asks, "will critter chase us down if we get caught attempting to steal from them?" >Gerett says, "Brainy critters." >A cloud of golden sparks suddenly appears in the air, forming the outline of a female Human before resolving into Holyph herself. >A quick motion catches your attention, and you notice a small spider on the floor reared back in a defensive posture. >A tiny brown sparrow lifts its head and nuzzles Puggy's ear before warbling a heart-rending melody. Holyph says, "Beasties." >Ralenth giggles at Gerett. >Xanthian says, "Word, not prefix." >Nutopea says, "good guys bad guys I guess" >You pick up a small spider. >Nutopea grins. You put the small spider in your pink backpack. >Deryni beams at Holyph! >Gerett says, "Critters." >Gloomthryn mutters hostiles and allies >Llorien chuckles at Holyph. >Palus gasps at Holyph! >Brude says, "A critter helping an ally might pull them to their feet if they get knocked down." >Ralenth grins at Holyph. >Kannon exclaims, "Holyph!" >Tkeeri lets out a howl for Holyph! >Kannon flails his arms around in front of Holyph. >Gerett says, "See how they ignore you." >Gerett nods to Brude. >Holyph says, "Doh, I meant to come in stealthily." >Llorien says, "I'm listening." Brude says, "Or cast a spell to de-web them, or..." >Holyph rubs Brude gently. >Xanthian says, "Species is a little extreme..." Llorien smiles at Brude. >Holyph dissolves in a shower of silvery sparks. >Nutopea giggles. >Gloomthryn makes a shushing noise. >Brude chuckles. >Kannon chuckles. >Xanthian says, "Clans are gonna be taken by us." >Xanthian ponders. Nutopea asks, "will critter chase us down if we get caught attempting to steal from them?" >Nutopea asks, "Can we try to steal the loot from feuding critters?" >Nutopea peers quizzically at Brude. >Tkeeri says, "I have two ears, I can hear them both well enough" >Brude says, "Not at the moment, now." >Brude says, "Err.. no." >Brude says, "Tracking is something I'm considering when I get to work on groups and stalking." >Brude coughs. >An orichalc fox moves its head away from Palus's waist and pounces up to his earlobe, where it rests again. >Palus stands up. >Nutopea says, "And to tie in with Lloriens comments earlier, if two critters are fighting and one runs into another room, how are we going to know if they show injury" >Nutopea says, "since we won't know if they are being attacked by a critter or a player" >Xanthian says, "Ooh, ooh, we call the bad ones meanies, the good ones allies, and the neutral ones critters." >Brude asks, "Guess?" >Llorien frowns at Brude. >Ralenth giggles at Xanthian. >Puggy says, "If it's in your room." >Puggy says, "Kill it." >Puggy shrugs. >Nutopea nods. >Koronis nods to Puggy. >Brude says, "If you have issues out hunting, find a way to resolve them." >Kalipso raises her hand. >Brude says, "It is part of hunting." >Gloomthryn mutters there isn't exactly an overcrouding problem at the moment >Nutopea nods to Brude. >Brude says, "Again, critters won't be fleeing every time you attack one." >Gerett snaps his fingers. >Xanthian says, "If the area's not big enough for the both of you, go and hunt each other out." >Brude says, "Now, if you take a break from goblins and head to the catacombs.." >Xanthian smirks. >Llorien asks, "So if I pull out my super duper thingamajig that won't effect how it sees me?" >Xanthian says, "Act like the "critters"" >Brude says, "Then yes, they will probably run away." >Llorien grins at Brude. >Brude says, "No." >Brude looks over at Llorien and shakes his head. >Llorien says, "Oh that's good news." >Llorien nods to Brude. >Brude says, "The measure you pretty much the same way you measure them." >Nutopea says, "question" >Brude says, "Level as the primary factor." >Puggy raises his hand. >Brude nods to Nutopea. >Nutopea asks, "If you set a trap, and your trap is at the critters level, can the critter disarm your trap or take your trap out?" >Nutopea says, "i.e take your wire, take your beartrap etc" >Nutopea says, "since they are smarter now" >Nutopea grins. >Brude says, "Not until a player can do it." >Xanthian asks, "And then set it and trap you with it?" >Xanthian smirks. >Xanthian says, "That's a good idea." >Xanthian nods to Nutopea. >Nutopea giggles at Xanthian. >Ralenth looks at Xanthian and grows pale. >Tkeeri says, "don't give him ideas Xanth" >Tkeeri pokes Xanthian in the ribs. >Brude chuckles. >Xanthian shrugs. >Llorien chuckles. >Destrution says, "Then You Have People Stealing Your Wire" >Xanthian says, "I don't need no sneaking." >Destrution smirks. >Nutopea grins. >Alessandra jumps to her feet! >Brude says, "When I give critters new abilities, I'm just giving them pretty much what you have." >Puggy says, "Sounds fair to me." >Brude says, "So, no taking your set traps." >Brude says, "No pulling up your vines and stuffing them in a bottle." >Nutopea says, "well it's just thoughts since we have all sorts of critters with all sorts of allances now" >Destrution says, "Of Course" >Ralenth cackles at Brude! >Destrution nods to Puggy. >>Koronis raises her hand. >Gerett twiddles his thumbs. >Nutopea says, "ok one last question" >Brude asks, "Any other questions at the moment?" >Brude nods to Nutopea. >Brude grins. >Gerett raises his hand. >Koronis sighs. >Puggy slaps Gerett's hand! >Puggy says, "You're not allowed." >Gerett glances at Puggy. >Puggy gets a silly grin on his face. >Gerett says, "Dont make me harm you." >Nutopea asks, "Say if you die, and you drop your beloved weapon of choice, and the critter your fighting, since he's alot smarter now, picks it up, is that even possible one? and two how would you get that back? and three can someone else kill that critter to get the item back?" >Puggy says, "ooo, I'm scared." >Gerett says, "You should be, I got a way to avoid your little bug." >Brude says, "There are strict limitations on items critters can pick up." >Puggy says, "No ya don't." >Puggy smirks at Gerett. >Brude says, "They can't be above a certain value..which is very low at the moment." >Destrution raises his hand. >Brude says, "They can't be altered." >Nutopea nods to Brude. >Brude says, "Or have any verbs, etc." >Nutopea nods to Brude. >Brude says, "They might take your cruddy nicked dagger." >Puggy asks, "Could the janitor put "special" weapons somewhere that we can pay a huge amount to get them back?" >Nutopea nods. >Llorien giggles. >Brude says, "They won't take your WOOSH sword." >Brude says, "That is a possibility." >Brude nods to Puggy. >Gloomthryn mutters that would be nice >Brude says, "They might clean up your boxes if you die, though." >A small bejeweled butterfly moves from Heartsong's finger and crawls up to her right wrist, where it goes still. >Brude says, "So.. don't die." >Nutopea asks, "and critters won't be coming into the town will they?" >Puggy chuckles. >Tkeeri mutters incoherently at Brude. >Ralenth snorts at Brude. >Tkeeri says, "as if" >Ralenth says, "Easier said than done." >Gloomthryn rolls his eyes. >Kannon leans on Llorien. >Brude grins. >Tkeeri says, "you sound bent on killing us like flies" >A tiny brown sparrow hops on Puggy's shoulder, ruffling its feathers quickly before settling down. >Gerett raises his hand. >Kalipso grins. >Lurker Alessandra just arrived followed by Celeo. >Fujikaza asks, "What about thrown weapons? Will they pick them up and use them against us?" >Brude says, "It's not as bad as it might sound." >Ralenth mutters i'm just waiting to hear that the critters are going to come into the town hunting us. >Lurker Alessandra just arrived. >Puggy lets out a hearty cheer for Ralenth! >Nutopea nods to Fujikaza. Llorien nods to Tkeeri. >Brude says, "When they get thrown weapon use, yes, they will." >Puggy says, "That's a great idea." >Nutopea says, "good point" >Ralenth looks at Puggy and grows pale. >Brude says, "Okay, next up is Koronis." >Celeo sighs. >Mezznar nods to Ralenth. >Koronis smiles. >Koronis asks, "What about the treasure situation, will that be fixed with new critters?" >Destrution says, "Be Great For Gate Sitters" >Ralenth cackles at Destrution! >Brude asks, "Treasure situation?" >Vatholian glances at Destrution. >Destrution asks, "What?" >Ralenth says, "some of them anyway." >Mezznar says, "yea i love invashions" >Vatholian says, "There's a reason I don't hunt, and I don't want them coming to me" >Koronis says, "Well, we still have some higher level critters that don't have much treasure" >Ralenth giggles at Vatholian. >Destrution chuckles at Vatholian. >Gerett says, "They are smart, they keep their wallets at home." >Gerett shrugs. >Ralenth cackles at Gerett! >Destrution nods to Koronis. >Destrution says, "Exactly" >Koronis grins. >Brude says, "Treasure is up to the treasure guru." >Xanthian asks, "We have one of those?" >Brude says, "I don't pay them, I just train them." >Mezznar points at himself. >Puggy looks drained, gold fire fading from his eyes. >Koronis says, "I thought they were going to fix that when they fixed critters" >Nutopea asks, "and who might that be?" >Xanthian asks, "Who do I worship for the price applied to cultists?" >Nutopea peers quizzically at Brude. >Destrution asks, "So They Get Harder We Make The Same?" >Destrution chortles. >Brude says, "Treasure is typically set by the area or critter owners." >Puggy's eyes flash maroon. >Koronis asks, "So that will never be fixed is what you're saying?" >Xanthian says, "Desty, In case you haven't noticed, your kill time dropped from 40 seconds to around 10, so you're making 4 times as much." >Nutopea glances at Puggy. >Destrution says, "Your Wrong" Gerett raises his hand. >Windel says, "More than 40 seconds before." >Xanthian nods to Windel. >Brude says, "I'm saying don't expect any treasure changes with the changes to critters. If and when that changes, it will be its own change." >Koronis sighs. >Brude says, "If I could make any guarantees or even give hints, I would, but it's really not something I'm working with." >Koronis nods to Brude. >Brude asks, "Did you have any other questions for now?" >Puggy stretches. >Koronis says, "That's it then" >Koronis says, "Thanks" >Brude nods to Koronis. >Brude says, "Okay." >Brude says, "Next is Kalipso" >Kalipso stands up. >Kalipso tilts her head toward Brude. >Nutopea blinks. >Nutopea looks at Heloha and blushes. >Kalipso asks, "I wanted to know - if we are fighting a critter, and it happens to run into a room where another hunter is, and they kill it - one, will I still get the same experience as if I killed it - and two, how is treasure going to be handled?" >Nutopea stands up. >Brude says, "Experience is simple." >Llorien smiles. >Puggy just left. Gerett laughs! >Brude says, "You would get experience the same as if you had group hunted with that other person." >Destrution gazes around with an air of uncertainty. >Brude says, "So, unless you barely scratched the critter, you'd get experience as usual." >Brude says, "As for treasure, that is something you'll have to work out among yourselves." >Kalipso says, "well, hopefully the critter won't be running unless it's about dead anyway." >Brude nods to Kalipso. >Brude says, "Only the very, very cowardly types will run if they're not very badly hurt or terribly outnumbered." >Tkeeri says, "just be prepared for a lot of squabbles then" >Tkeeri grins at Brude. >Brude chuckles. >Brude says, "I'll be watching things." >Kannon fidgets nervously. >Gerett ponders. >Gerett shakes his head. >Mezznar asks, "your gonna fight over 5 or 6 dinars?" >Llorien laughs! >Kalipso says, "okay - so... being that HX has such a small player base, and we are all kinda one big relitively happy family, only fueding on profession differences which will soon be over and done with, now we are going to fight over who gets to keep the treasure of a scared critter." >Tkeeri says, "I didn't say I was, but I know enough people here in Athens, to know that is gonna happen" >Ralenth gets a thoughtful expression on her face. >Destrution says, "I Cant Understand Why This Cant Wait For Reallocation" >Xanthian says, "We need something to fight about people, otherwise we're all boring." >Nutopea just arrived. >Nutopea sits down. >Ralenth snorts at Xanthian. >Xanthian asks, "Disagree?" >Xanthian peers quizzically at Ralenth. >Kalipso says, "if it runs on only 25 health points and joesmuck scratchs it for that after I drained it of over 800 points, there shouldn't be a question over who gets the treasure." >Llorien says, "You could be talking 400 dinars too, not 4 or 5." >Brude says, "It's not a situation that will be popping up all the time. And it is something I think people will be able to handle." >Kalipso nods to Brude. >Gerett chuckles at Brude. >Gerett says, "Your faith in people levels me." >Kalipso says, "just wanted to toss out there that we may be going from one battle into another." >Kalipso grins at Brude. >Tkeeri nods to Gerett. >Kalipso sits down next to Tkeeri. >Destrution chuckles. >Brude chuckles at Kalipso. >Destrution nods. >Llorien applauds Kalipso! >Fujikaza says, "Dual for it..." >Tkeeri grins at Fujikaza. >chuckle fujFujikaza chuckles. >You chuckle at Fujikaza. >Brude says, "I anticipate a potential for some difficulty adjusting." >Ralenth says, "why not just split it like you would hunting together?.." >Destrution asks, "Or Llorien Can I Follow You Around?" >Destrution hums! >Llorien grins at Destrution. >Brude asks, "Okay, was there anything else?" >Windel says, "That problem will probably show up mostly in the lower levels. At the higher levels you usually know who else is hunting in the area with you. And could probably figure something out with them" >Kalipso says, "no, I'm good, thanks." >Kalipso tilts her head toward Brude. >Brude nods to Kalipso. >Windel asks, "Honestly... how many find more than 2 or 3 people in the same hunting grounds as they are at the same time?" >Brude asks, "Okay, Gloomthryn?" >Mezznar looks at Windel and shrugs. >Gloomthryn nods. >Destrution nods to Windel. Gloomthryn stands up. >Windel says, "If even that." >Gloomthryn says, "okay, reletively simple question" >Destrution says, "Itll Happen" >Brude nods to Gloomthryn. >Gloomthryn asks, "if the critters are going to be gaining all these new tricks and skills, are they still going to have twice are health?" >Ralenth mutters good point. >Xanthian asks, "Twice what health?" >Brude says, "Their health is in line with reallocation, and has been ever since new combat." >Xanthian says, "I have the same health as critters, almost." >Xanthian shrugs. >Gloomthryn grins at Xanthian. >Gerett looks over at Xanthian and shakes his head. >Gerett says, "No you dont." >Xanthian exclaims, "I do to!" >Gloomthryn says, "i don't have near thier health" >Xanthian says, "I have over 900, oceanids barely over 1000." >Gloomthryn sits down. >Llorien raises her hand. Brude says, "Their health won't be dropping." >Gloomthryn says, "that was all" >Brude nods to Gloomthryn. >Xanthian shrugs. >Brude says, "Okay, Puggy." >You say, "He left." >Brude mumbles something under his breath. >Celeo raises his hand. >Destrution raises his hand. >Brude says, "Then, Gerett." >Kannon shifts his weight around. >Nutopea nods. Gerett jumps to his feet! Gerett clamps his hands over his mouth. >Kannon says, "I thought Gerett wasn't allowed" Gerett says, "OKay, I forgot, what I wanted to say, but I got it." >Brude chuckles at Gerett. A small jewel-toned butterfly winds its way up from Heartsong's wrist. It suddenly launches into the air and flaps lazily until it settles comes to rest on her neck where it opens its wings to display the spectacular colors before falling back to sleep. >Nutopea raises an eyebrow in Gerett's direction. >Gerett asks, "I wasn't here for the whole of this, but, I was wonderin, with these changes, will one critter match our ability?" Brude says, "Probably not." Gerett says, "I mean, will the critters we hunt, be able to give a player character a run for their money." >Xanthian asks, "They already do, don't they?" >Xanthian peers quizzically at Gerett. >Gerett says, "Because we suck." >Gerett looks at Xanthian and shrugs. >Brude says, "Hopefully, they won't be as easy as they are now, but they won't be overwhelming." >Destrution nods. >Xanthian asks, "So do they, no defence, 'member?" >Gerett says, "Well my concern is this, these critters dont face the consequences we do." >Destrution nods. >Brude says, "Sure they do. They usually die." >Brude sniffles. >Nutopea says, "that would be funny, seeing critters roaming around hades" >Nutopea chuckles. >Xanthian lets out a hearty cheer for Brude! >Gerett says, "They dont have to run out of hades, worry about money, health, or their kiddies play date next week, I dont think it fair that we have an impossible time learning spit if they equal us." >Ralenth grins at Nutopea. >Gloomthryn mutters and stay dead >Brude says, "You won't have an impossible time learning." >Gerett says, "Snap their fingers and suddenly, they have thirty dozen friends." >Destrution says, "Stuns For Example" >Kalipso nods to Llorien. >Gerett raises an eyebrow in Brude's direction. >Brude says, "It will be different." >Gerett says, "You said critters are easy now." >Gerett shrugs. >Brude says, "They are." >Gerett says, "For a GM, yes they are." >Nutopea smirks. >Xanthian asks, "And you pointed out that we are easy now too, 'member?" >Xanthian peers quizzically at Gerett. >Gerett says, "For a player who gets stunned and knocked down every other second, they aren't." >Xanthian asks, "Or do you have selective memory??" >Kalipso nods to Llorien. >Gerett says, "No, I said we suck." >Destrution nods. >Xanthian says, "And yet critters give you a run for your money, not much more." >Xanthian says, "So they can't be much less sucky." Gerett asks, "Eh?" >Destrution says, "And 2 15 Second Stuns We Have No Chance" >Destrution shakes his head. >You pick up a small spider. >You put the small spider in your pink backpack. >You hear Sid somewhere outside the council house yelling, "SHADDAP SHADDAP SHADDAP!" >Brude says, "I do expect them to be more of a challenge. I'm hoping so, anyway. And more interesting." >Nutopea giggles. >Kalipso giggles. >Gerett says, "I dont stun for 18 seconds, then 4, then 8, then 22, then 13. Regardless, my point is simple, we aren't exactly the best matches for critters now, you make them tougher, without making us tougher, its going to be murder." >Brude says, "But not to the extent that you are overwhelmed." >Xanthian beams at Brude! >Xanthian snaps his fingers. >Brude says, "Hunt smart." >Destrution nods to Gerett. >Gerett says, "Ah, I see." >Xanthian says, "Hunt with friends." >Xanthian nods to Gerett. >Gloomthryn says, "caryy an alchemist in your back pocket" >Gloomthryn whistles skillfully to himself. >Ralenth grins at Gloomthryn. >Gerett says, "So they get tougher and have infinite numbers, we get a little health and a good luck, dont duck when you should weave." >Gerett nods. >Gerett says, "Okily dokily." Gerett plops down onto the floor. >Brude chuckles. >Ralenth says, "That's about it." >Ralenth nods to Gerett. >Nutopea grins at Gerett. >Brude says, "You're getting reallocation." >Gerett raises an eyebrow in Brude's direction. >Destrution says, "Already Do" >Gerett says, "I'm as tough with a weapon as I will be." >Gerett says, "And with dodging." >Gerett shrugs. >Gerett says, "I see no benefit from reallo." >Xanthian asks, "Health?" >Xanthian asks, "Adrenals?" >Gerett asks, "Didn't I just say we're getting a little health?" >Xanthian asks, "Multiple weapon styles??" >Destrution asks, "And Why Not Wait For Reallocation Anyway?" >Destrution gazes at Xanthian. >Gerett says, "Because its definately prudent to switch weapons in mid combat." >Gerett rolls his eyes. >Gerett mutters something under his breath. >Gerett slaps himself on the forehead! >Destrution nods to Gerett. >Gerett says, "Anyway." >Ralenth grins at Gerett. >Xanthian asks, "Actually, didn't Brude point out that you might wanna do that now?" >Xanthian peers quizzically at Gerett. >Gerett says, "Brude has a lot of points which make little sense to me, but he knows that." >Gerett shrugs. >Nutopea chuckles. >Nutopea pats Gerett on the shoulder. >Brude chuckles. >Xanthian says, "Well, you can't get stunned if you can't get hit, and a shield works wonders for that." >Xanthian nods to Gerett. >Gerett says, "I guess I just think it right to make them outhger, and keep us relatively the same." >Xanthian says, "Better than anything else." >Destrution says, "Have To Agree With Gerett" >Gerett says, "I think it not right rather." >Ralenth nods to Gerett. >Gerett says, "tougher." >Gerett mutters something under his breath. >Gerett pokes at himself. >Gerett says, "And reallo isn't making us tougher." >Gerett says, "Its making us healthy." >Brude says, "Part of the reasoning behind rewriting them now is so that you will have a better sense of what they are like when you do reallocate." >Xanthian asks, "Brude, can I say something on your behalf?" >Kannon shifts his weight around. >Brude says, "It's not my intention to make hunting more difficult." >Gerett starts to say something, then stops. >Koronis asks, "How long do we have to wait for reallocation?" >Ralenth says, "That's what's happening." >Gerett squints at Brude. >Ralenth tilts her head toward Brude. >Destrution says, "It Is" >Destrution nods. >Gerett asks, "Isn't difficult different wording for more challenging?" >Xanthian wrings his hands. >Brude says, "You will have to adapt to the situation." >Ralenth says, "You said you wanted to make them not so easy" >Brude says, "You can't do it all the same way for every critter every time." >Ralenth says, "Doesn't that mean you want to make hunting more difficult" >Ralenth peers quizzically at Brude. >Brude says, "No, it means hunting have more variety." >Destrution says, "And We Stay The Same" >Llorien sighs. Xanthian asks, "Brude... can I say something here on your behalf?" >Kannon says, "They already not so easy." >Xanthian bounces in his seat! >Destrution says, "Sounds Fair" >Destrution rolls his eyes. >Nutopea turns toward Xanthian. >Nutopea seems to be waiting for Xanthian to do something. >You hear the voice of Tethys say, "By not so easy it means that you can't do it on autopilot and should have to interact some rather than hit the swing swing swing script and chop away." >Nutopea grins. >Tethys just arrived. >Brude asks, "Okay, Gerett was there anything else for the moment?" >Mezznar nods to Tethys. >Ralenth gazes at Tethys. >Tkeeri grins at Tethys. >Gerett says, "I'll bug you in private, dont want a debate." >Gerett plops his feet around on the ground. >Brude chuckles at Gerett. >Brude says, "Okay, Destrution." >Nutopea gazes at Tethys in concern. >Nutopea says, "your wounded" >Tethys says, "A lot of the changes are such that, creatures should/can/will use magic." >Gerett jumps to his feet! >Destrution says, "Okay Doesnt It Seem We Should Improve If They Are" >Tethys says, "Have AI enough to try to heal themselves." >Xanthian asks, "Well, true or false, we kill much quicker. True or false, this means we earn more dinars. True or false, we learn quicker. True or false, we need to be near death to leave them poor critters alone now. True or false, this will bring the average time needed to earn dinars and gain experience back where it should be if things get harder?" >Gerett says, "Thanks for the fun time everyone, glad I could do my part." >Destrution asks, "Or Is That Just Me?" >Llorien glances at Xanthian. >Destrution says, "False" >Gerett exclaims, "False to a few of those!" >Gerett bounces up and down exuberantly! >Gerett waves. >Gerett exclaims, "bye!" >Ralenth waves at Gerett. >Tethys says, "T T F T F" >Tkeeri blinks. >Tkeeri giggles at Tethys. >Nutopea says, "not if the amount of dinar we can get per kill is still the same" >Tethys says, "Maybe." >Ralenth gazes at Tethys with an air of uncertainty. >Ralenth asks, "TT wha?" >Tethys furrows her brow. >Kannon says, "F F F T T" >Tkeeri says, "those were the trues to his questions" >Tkeeri grins at Ralenth. >Xanthian asks, "Want me to go demonstrate?" >Xanthian peers quizzically at Tethys. >Ralenth blinks. >Ralenth says, "oh" >Ralenth chortles. >Llorien raises her hand. >Xanthian says, "I can go fill my head in about 5 minutes now, easy." >Ralenth smacks her forehead with the palm of her hand! >Llorien says, "You skipped me." >Destrution rolls his eyes. >Llorien pouts at Brude. >Ralenth gazes at Xanthian. >Windel says, "I don't see how you can, I certainly can't in 5 minutes." Brude says, "I have you after Destrution." >Ralenth says, "Even if you can Xan" >Ralenth says, "doesn't mean that the rest of us can" >Destrution says, "No Normal Person Can" >Heartsong says, "Takes me at least half an hour on level." >Mezznar says, "i can fill my head in 5 minutes and hunt 3 levels over my head" >Tkeeri blinks at Destrution. >Xanthian asks, "Nobody's heard of attack dogs?" >Tkeeri glances at Kalipso. >Nutopea says, "you must be using assistance of some kind" >Xanthian asks, "What assistance?" >Brude says, "Destrution, back to your question." >Koronis says, "Will you all enlighten us on how you train so we can do the same" >Xanthian says, "I leap, I attack, I leap, I attack." >Xanthian shrugs. >Destrution says, "Shhhh" >Brude says, "Players get improvements." >Brude says, "They might not be as fast or as much as you want, but they do come." >Brude says, "Critters do not." >Kannon raises his hand. >Destrution asks, "Name One Warriors Have?" >Brude says, "This is their long overdue improvement." >Brude says, "This is not a warrior forum." >Destrution says, "You Said We Got Them" >Koronis rummages around in her pockets. >Destrution asks, "When?" >Suddenly the bejeweled butterfly on Heartsong's shoulder flaps its wings and leaps into the air, flitting lightly down to rest on her hip, wings outspread in glorious color, where it returns to dozing. >Kalipso says, "before they were taken away." >Kalipso grins at Destrution. >Destrution chuckles. >Destrution shakes his head. >Destrution says, "Thats All" >Brude nods to Destrution. >Brude says, "I have been discussing things with those handling warrior issues." >Brude says, "You are not forgotten, and you're not going to be blown away by everything that jogs down the trail." >Xanthian asks, "Can we get leg breakage to stop things running away?" >Tethys says, "That is a combat issue that is being looked at. Some of your concerns are being evaluated in regard to combat in an active way. Currently the role of dodging and armor is being evaluated as is length of combat. Creatures have needed to be better for a very very long time." >Xanthian gazes hopefully at Brude. >Ralenth snickers at Xanthian. >Brude chuckles at Xanthian. >Brude says, "Okay, Llorien." >Llorien says, "I know this question is probably moot, but when do you expect the majority of this to be done? And can we see a demonstration tonight, or sometime in the near future? And if you know, is the satyr, hunter, white stag area close to what you've been talking about tonight? " >Llorien says, "Because if so, I really enjoy it personally." >Llorien smiles. >Brude says, "They are probably similar, though they work differently." >Brude says, "As for when..." >Brude asks, "Soon?" >Llorien chuckles. >Kalipso babbles something about Brude. Gloomthryn chuckles. >Brude chuckles. >Destrution chuckles. >Llorien says, "As close to reallocation as possible I'm hoping." >Llorien winks. >Brude says, "The first changes, those I discussed tonight, will come out next month." Kalipso nods to Llorien. >Xanthian lets out a howl for Brude! >Llorien nods to Brude. >Destrution shakes his head. >Llorien says, "That's all for me." >Brude says, "Sooner than later, is the plan." >Brude says, "But next month." >Koronis asks, "What about reallocation?" Llorien smiles at Brude. >Llorien says, "Thank you." >Brude says, "They won't affect all critters, not at first." >Llorien nods to Brude. >Xanthian says, ""Soon."" >Xanthian nods to Koronis. >Brude says, "But eventually, every critter will be turned to the dark side." >Windel chuckles at Brude. >Ralenth blinks at Brude. Brude says, "Err.. new system." >Ralenth edges away from Brude. >Llorien snickers. >Xanthian gazes craftily at Brude. >Ralenth raises her hand. >Brude says, "As for a demo... I don't know. Maybe." >Brude chuckles. >Brude asks, "Celeo?" >Tethys says, "Actually some will be turned the the light side." >Tethys says, "As well." >Brude nods to Tethys. >Llorien asks, "What about a demonstration?" >Llorien says, "oh, okay." >Llorien ducks her head. >Xanthian says, "Hadda spoil the effect." >Ralenth pats Llorien on the shoulder. >Xanthian frowns at Tethys. >Tethys asks, "Did you tell them that part?" >Brude says, "I'll see what I can do. Not right away, anyway." >Brude nods to Tethys. >Tethys says, "Oh good." >Celeo says, "Well I was Late comming so I don't know what has been said already...." >Kannon shifts his weight around. >Brude nods to Celeo. >Tethys says, "You might actually have city militia that fight evil invaders beside you." >Nutopea says, "um brude, that helm your wearing" >Nutopea coughs. >Brude adjusts the fit of his helm. >Nutopea says, "It's a bit oddly worded" >Brude says, "It fits oddly, too." >Llorien pokes Nutopea in the ribs. >Nutopea chuckles. >A innocent look crosses the face of Nutopea. >Nutopea says, "what I can't think he looks odd" >Tethys laughs! >Nutopea chuckles. >Celeo asks, "First the critters can move to annother room while we are fighting it? Is that why they were wondering about truesure and such?" >Brude says, "I believe that's why, yes." >Kannon asks, "He makes flying leaps into peoples backpacks and his helm is odd?" >Ralenth cackles at Kannon! >Destrution makes a shushing noise. >Destrution chuckles. >Xanthian slaps Kannon heartily on the back! >Kannon coughs. >Kannon mutters incoherently at Xanthian. >Xanthian blushes a bright red color. >Celeo asks, "Ok well then if so will they be able to run off while traped? I mean If I web one it won't be able to run off with a web on its head can it?" >Xanthian says, "Sorry, the kidnappers don't feel it." >Xanthian shrugs. >Brude says, "If it's webbed, no it won't run." >Celeo says, "silly I know" >Kannon asks, "What about netted?" >Nutopea giggles at Celeo. >Brude says, "It has to be fully capable of moving." >Brude says, "Nope." >Brude says, "Nor stunned, nor kneeling, nor asleep..." >Kalipso asks, "any news on if poisons will be working when this comes out?" >Celeo says, "I was just thinking that with the changes it could hop away or something" >Xanthian asks, "Poisons work, don't they?" >Xanthian scratches his head. >Ralenth mutters don't give him ideas >Ralenth gazes at Celeo. >Ralenth grins at Celeo. >Brude says, "This is just a critter change, and won't have any effect on poisons." >Kalipso nods to Brude. >Brude looks over at Celeo and shakes his head. >Nutopea giggles at Celeo. >Celeo says, "Ok whew" >Brude says, "If it's webbed, it's webbed." >Tethys says, "We will look at poisons in conjunction with the combat evaluations." >Celeo says, "I know silly thought" >Kalipso tilts her head toward Tethys. >Nutopea asks, "will the family members of critters come and hunt you down for killing their baby etc?" >Nutopea giggles. >Ralenth cackles at Nutopea! >Brude chuckles at Nutopea. >Celeo laughs! >A innocent look crosses the face of Nutopea. >Brude asks, "Maybe eventually?" >Xanthian says, "You might wanna re-evaluate a critter being prone too... right now it does far more than orange red poison." >Nutopea giggles. >Xanthian nods to Tethys. >Ralenth looks at Brude and grows pale. Nutopea says, "that would be cool" >Brude chuckles. >Tethys says, "They do see to be less useful than I recall." >Brude says, "It's not exactly my highest priority." >Xanthian raises his hand. >Brude says, "Okay, I think I skipped some people.. I lost my list of names." >Brude coughs. >Ralenth gazes at Brude. >Brude asks, "Okay, then, Xanthian?" >Destrution gazes at Ralenth. >Ralenth gazes at Destrution. >Xanthian says, "I have 2 questions..." >Xanthian asks, "First, was it intentional, before, that you referred to minions?" >Xanthian asks, "Were you referring to the current ones, to allies, or something more sinister?" >Brude says, "If anyone had a questin, please raise your hand again. My list is gone." >Brude says, "Minions." >Ralenth nuzzles Destrution. >Ralenth raises her hand. >Xanthian says, "The ones priests can summon." >Xanthian nods to Brude. >Kannon raises his hand. >Brude says, "Oh, player minions. If your minion attacks a good critter, the critter will regard you as an enemy just as if you had attacked it." >Xanthian says, "Ah, that solves that." >Brude says, "Critters don't have minions, at least at the moment." >Xanthian says, "Ok, secondly, this I'm surprised nobody picked up..." >Xanthian asks, "You said about having to be far more versatile with weapons?" >Melatha appears in a swirl of silvery mist. >Brude grins at Melatha. >Brude nods to Xanthian. >Melatha grins at Brude. >Kalipso beams at Tkeeri! >Xanthian says, "Will this be like one of thos almost necessary aspects, the ones that leave us for dead if we don't follow, because if so, I'm definitely gonna go down one route." >Xanthian grins. >Tkeeri pokes Melatha in the ribs. >>Brude says, "Mostly it means that the more versatile you are, the more hunting options you will have." >Xanthian nods. >Xanthian says, "Unless, of course, you're determined as me or Wazza." >Xanthian grins. >Brude chuckles. >Nutopea chuckles. >Xanthian asks, "Ok, now could I make a request for you to send on a message?" >Heartsong just left. Vatholian says, "I wouldn't call you determined, was thinking more on the lines of suicidal" >Ralenth cackles at Vatholian! >Brude says, "So having a secondary weapon choice, or some additional ability to supplement your primary choice is a good idea." >Destrution nods to Vatholian. >Brude raises an eyebrow in Xanthian's direction. >Xanthian asks, "Could somebody please do something with the cave troll/stalagmite/mold/etc. area near greenfields?" >Brude chuckles at Xanthian. >Brude says, "I" >Brude coughs. >Brude picks up a small spider. >Brude tosses aside his spider. >Brude says, "Will mention it." >Xanthian says, "It's an awesome area, excellent filler for oceanids 'till lesser golems..." >Brude nods to Xanthian. >Xanthian says, "But it's far too much effort and my pants get too many holes from the piranhas." >Ralenth giggles at Xanthian. >Brude chuckles. >Brude asks, "Okay, did you have anything else?" >Tkeeri asks, "lesser goblins you mean? or are there lesser golems too somewhere?" >Xanthian says, "Err, goblis." >Xanthian says, "Goblins even." >Xanthian blushes a bright red color. >Xanthian says, "No, that was al." >Tkeeri slowly empties her lungs. >Xanthian says, "All too." >Tkeeri says, "I thought I had missed a critter experience" >Brude nods to Xanthian. >Ralenth grins at Tkeeri. >Brude says, "Okay, Ralenth." >Nutopea giggles at Xanthian. >Celeo grins at Tkeeri. >Kalipso snuggles up close to Tkeeri laying her head on her shoulder. >Heartsong just arrived. >Heartsong sits down. >Ralenth asks, "The critter's alignment - Good neutral and evil.. Does that depend on the type of critter they are?" >Brude says, "It's up to the critter or area owner." >Tkeeri snuggles up close to Kalipso laying her head on her shoulder. >Ralenth asks, "Or can persay, three of the same type of critter be one of each alignment?" >Brude says, "That's a possibility, but probably not the norm." >Ralenth asks, "So basically... If a legion is neutral, then all legions are neutral and soforth?" >Brude says, "Probably." >Ralenth nods. >Ralenth says, "Okay.. That's all." >Brude says, "Specific aspects of critter personality, including alignment, can vary from critter to critter, but that is for the designer to decide." >Brude says, "I just made it so they had the choice." >Brude nods to Ralenth. >Brude asks, "Okay, did I miss anyone or did anyone else have a question right now?" >Kannon raises his hand. >Brude nods to Kannon. >Brude says, "Kanno." >Nutopea stands up. >Kannon says, "Moot question. Probably heard it asked a thousand times ten different ways." >Brude says, "Kannon, too." >Kannon grins at Brude. >Brude chuckles at Kannon. >Brude says, "It will probably get asked a few different ways a few more times. Go ahead." >Kannon asks, "Why can't armor and dodging work together?" >Brude chuckles at Kannon. >Brude says, "That's a combat issue." >Melatha grins at Brude. >Tkeeri glances at Melatha. >Kalipso raises her hand. >Kannon says, "Well it's a critter issue too when you think about it." >Ralenth mutters aren't critters part of combat? >Llorien grins at Ralenth. >Xanthian says, "You try being a dodging whirlwind with half a ton of armor on." >Xanthian nods to Kannon. >Kannon asks, "Somebody specializing in dodging would get rightly tired of getting hit all the time wouldn't ya think?" >Tethys says, "Actually thats a combat issue." >Brude says, "Critters use combat, but they are a seperate system." >Ralenth gets a thoughtful expression on her face. >Kannon nods. >Ralenth says, "Aren't critters essentially combat though? i mean.. without critters there'd be no need for combat." >Ralenth gives a quick, lopsided grin. >Brude says, "Critters use combat." >Brude says, "They are not combat." >Ralenth gets a thoughtful expression on her face. >Ralenth says, "Oh well. Not an important point anyway." >Tethys says, "Let me make a general statement. For combat we will be posting some of the dirrections reevaluation will take us on the boards. Please feedback to that when you see it... one thought is that dodge should count toward not being hit... but then armor should absorb damage... your armor skill will determine how much your dodge is handicapped and how effective the armor is for an example... This is one of the things we have discussed." >Llorien smiles at Tethys. >Tethys says, "We are not entirely sure we like the either/or either." >Tethys grins. >Kannon says, "Ahh, now that is the first sensible thing I've heard from ya'll on that subject." >Kannon nods to Tethys. >Xanthian asks, "Did you consider my idea on health and armor's state of repair?" >Xanthian peers quizzically at Tethys. >Xanthian shrugs. >Tethys says, "It will be considered too. I personally like the concept of your health and your gears health determining efefctiveness." >Tethys says, "effectiveness even." >Xanthian nods to Tethys. >Tkeeri giggles at Tethys. >Tethys says, "Gives reason for repair" >Llorien nods to Tethys. >Tkeeri says, "I'm not one to argue with the way the gods speak their words" >Xanthian says, "Was the only way I saw that 300k for armor made a difference, and it makes dodging and armor exactly equal." >Tkeeri winks at Tethys. >Destrution shifts his weight around. >Brude asks, "All right, anymore questions?" >Kalipso raises her hand. >Brude nods to Kalipso. >Kalipso stands up. >Kalipso says, "just a short one." >Brude nods. >Kalipso says, "not being raised on paper and pencil rp gaming..." >Kalipso asks, "I was wondring the effects of the critters being alligned - is that just for their own actions pretty much - so they know who they will be fighting if not us right away?" >Brude nods to Kalipso. >Brude says, "It's so they know who is friend and who is foe." >Kalipso says, "so no other differences to the players - pretty much." >Ralenth nuzzles Destrution. >Brude says, "Other than that good critters might assist you, no, nothing really at this time." >Destrution cuddles up next to Ralenth. >Kalipso nods to Brude. >Ralenth cuddles up next to Destrution. >Kalipso says, "thanks." >Brude says, "Good critters, whenever they pop up, can be hunted." >Kalipso sits down next to Tkeeri. >Brude says, "But the will be worth less in both experience and wealth than another critter of that level." >Destrution blinks. >Kalipso says, "ah..." >Kalipso nods. >Windel raises his hand. >Brude says, "So would-be villains will have to overhunt if they want the same experience." >Brude asks, "Windel?" >Xanthian says, "Oh, and they trigger a reaction of other good critters wanting justice." >Xanthian nods to Brude. >Windel says, "A little beef with that." >Xanthian says, "You left that bit out." >Brude nods to Xanthian. >Kalipso asks, "and will we be able to know the difference when we and they walk into the room?" >The butterfly on Heartsong's hip suddenly springs into the air, circles her several times, and comes to rest on her other hip. >Windel says, "So for me to go out and kill a 'good' thing I will get less xp and loot? " >Windel asks, "What if I am 'evil'?" >Windel says, "Stuff, no matter how good or evil, would carry whatever they carry." >Destrution shakes his head. >Brude says, "That's the price of being evil, at least for now." >Windel chuckles. >Xanthian gasps at Windel! >Xanthian asks, "A desperado thinks that crime pays the same as honest work?" >Destrution rolls his eyes. >Windel asks, "Killing is honest work?" >Windel says, "Cool" >Windel grins. >Ralenth giggles at Windel. >Xanthian says, "It is when you kill the dishonest." >Xanthian nods to Windel. >Windel chuckles. >Brude says, "Now if there are other feasible ways to 'penalize' villainous types, those will be looked at." >Vatholian says, "Assassinations are honest work, you're paid to do a job" >Windel nods to Brude. >Ralenth cackles at Vatholian! >Gloomthryn stands up. >Brude says, "But for now, it's just less exp and treasure." >Tethys says, "Well most creatures would be neutral to evil." >Brude nods to Tethys. >Xanthian says, "And then you have to re examine what you mena by honest work." >Xanthian nods to Vatholian. >Kalipso asks, "will we be able to see their allignment somehow? in a measure or look?" >Brude says, "Good critters will likely be rare. I don't know of any that will be appearing regularly at the moment, anyway." >Brude says, "Measure will tell alignment." >Kalipso nods to Brude. >Brude says, "Assuming your level and skill are adequate." >Xanthian stands up. >Tethys says, "A doe wandering the forest is not an innocent... its a neutral that most of greece would gladly shoot and eat." >Brude nods. >Kannon shifts his weight around. >Brude says, "Okay, time for one more question." >Brude says, "And then I flee." >Brude says, "All right." >Melatha raises his hand. >Brude chuckles. >Melatha says, "sorry, a twitch" >Melatha grins at Brude. >Brude grins. >Brude says, "All right, don't be too overly concerned that you're going to be annihilated or be unable to hunt." >Tkeeri blinks at Brude. >Tkeeri grumbles. >Ralenth mutters too overly concerned? >Ralenth snorts. >Brude says, "It's not that bad, really." >Destrution glances at Ralenth and holds up one finger to his lips. >Brude says, "Just different, and not quite as automated a process." >Ralenth mutters incoherently at Destrution. >Ralenth pinches her lips closed. >Destrution says, "Harder" >Brude says, "And when it comes, I will be watching and will be glad to hear feedback." >Destrution nods. >Koronis says, "I'm sure you'll hear plenty" >Koronis grins. >Brude chuckles at Koronis. >Ralenth nods to Koronis. >Celeo says, "I have a question but not sure I should ask it." >Brude chuckles at Celeo. >Brude says, "Okay, if it's a fast one." Celeo says, "Probably not" >Brude says, "All right. You can post questions on the message boards if you like." >Celeo says, "Ok." >Brude says, "Probably the Critter folder, in Advancing in Athens, I think." Brude nods. >Brude says, "Okay, thank you all for coming." >Tkeeri grumbles. >Fujikaza stands up. >Llorien applauds Brude! >Fujikaza bows to Brude. >Tkeeri stands up. >Llorien says, "Thanks for all the info." >Brude chuckles. >Brude nods. >Tkeeri grins at Brude. >Celeo bows to Brude. >Llorien says, "I guess we just have to wait and see." >Brude says, "It sounds maybe worse than it is." >Llorien says, "then flail ya." >Brude chuckles at Llorien. >Tethys says, "Do not brude overly on the change." >Llorien winks at Brude. >Tkeeri asks, "maybe?" Destrution nods. >Tkeeri glances at Brude. >Ralenth cackles at Tethys! >Tkeeri giggles at Tethys. >Melatha groans at Tethys. >Llorien chuckles. Fujikaza says, "Arigato." >Brude twitches slightly. >Brude waves. >Celeo waves. >Brude begins humming a soft, sad tune that hangs in the air moments after you realize that he is gone.