>You say, "Okay, I'm going to get us started here..."
>Artorious just arrived.
>Seni grins at Asantewaa.
>Asantewaa nods to Seni.
>Asantewaa snuggles up close to Maker laying her head on his chest.
>Maker says, "If we need something to use as a battering ram to test armor, I say we uses Senis head its harder and holds more hot air than steel."
>Anika raises an eyebrow in Maker's direction.
>Maker says, "Last one."
>Seni glances at Maker.
>Artorious gazes around at his surroundings.
>Maker hums with a knowing smirk on his face.
>Seni asks, "cant you take out his mouth pleaseeeee?"
>Anika says, "Don't pay any attention to Maker."
>You shake your head at Seni and cluck your tongue.
>Anika winks at Artorious.
>Maker snuggles up close to Asantewaa laying his head on her shoulder.
>Artorious smiles at Anika.
Asantewaa strokes the back of Maker's neck.
>You say, "In case anyone hasn't read the news 37 yet or the post on the message boards, here is the proposed key changes to armor:"
>Asantewaa appears changed in some fashion.
>
You instruct:

     1. The way armor skill is used to overcome encumbrance penalties.
     2. The effects of over-encumbered armor users will be expanded to some non-combat verbs.
     3. Your ability to measure an armor's effectiveness will be made clearer.
     4. Armor attacks will be added (shield bash, spiked armor brawling moves, etc.)
     5. Small increase to stun resistance for mundane armors.
     6. Mundane armor users will have the ability to try to land any blows from opponents on an armored location if the attack would normally be hitting an unarmored location (based on armor skill).
     7. There will be a minimum skill requirement for using better armor types.

>You say, "I think I'll start by asking if anyone has any questions about why we're looking at making changes first"
>You say, "Just raise your hands if you do please"
>Maker raises his hand.
>You say, "I take it that you're all in favor of..."
>Maker grins.
>You say, "Dang!  Spoke too soon"
You grin.
>You say, "Go ahead Maker."
>A resplendent green parrot hops on Asantewaa's shoulder, ruffling its feathers quickly before settling down.
>You nod to Maker.
>Seni chuckles at you!
>Maker says, "Im in favor but figured id just raise my hand."
>You laugh!
>Maker clears his throat.
>You say, "Okay, then let me ask what questions you had about what we're proposing"
>Maker asks, "Number 2..something about non-combat verbs?"
>You say, "Wow.  This might be one quick forum..."
>You exclaim, "Dang!  Spoke too soon again!"
>Bontinor grins at you.
>You grin at Maker.
>Asantewaa says, "Maker's good at that."
>Asantewaa grins at you.
>You say, "Yeah, that's a good question"
>Seni says, "takes him a while to think of something"
>Seni grins at Asantewaa.
>Asantewaa gives Seni an irritable poke in the ribs.
>Leanna grins.
>Asantewaa says, "Hush."
>Maker says, "at least im trying to contribute."
>Maker glances at Seni.
Seni glances at Maker.
>Seni mutters something under her breath.
>Holyph says, "10 points to Grif..."
>Holyph says, "Err, nevermind."
>Bontinor glances at Holyph.
>Leanna snickers at Holyph.
>Seni grins at Holyph.
>You say, "I can't see a whole lot of non-comabt verbs that I can think of initially that would be affected but most of them might depend alot on how over-encumbered a player is and what they're doing"
>Bontinor asks, "STAND, perhaps?"
>Bontinor peers quizzically at you.
>You say, "Certainly most acrobatic manuevers"
>You nod to Bontinor.
>Holyph exclaims, "Ooo, ooo!"
>Anika says, "Dancing moves should be affected too."
>You say, "Jumping to one's feet for one"
>Anika nods to you.
>Holyph asks, "Will the amount of dinars we carry count into it?"
>You say, "Or ululating to one's feet"
>You say, "feet or hooves (to be politically correct"
>Bontinor chuckles at you!
>Anika snaps her fingers.
>Artorious asks, "so you are saying armor will affect all of these?"
>Asantewaa says, "I apologize but need to go for a few moments."
>You grin at Anika.
>Anika mutters Thought us 'Taurs would be unaffected.
>Essentius stands up.
>Leanna raises her hand.
>Asantewaa's gazes around apologetically.
>Asantewaa gives Maker a lingering kiss.
>Asantewaa stands up.
>You say, "It could"
>Asantewaa waves.
>Maker says, "hurry back."
You say, "But only if severely encumbered"
>Anika asks, "This is for regular, munane armor, right?"
>You say, "Acrobatics might be affected if mildly encumbered but might only affect fatigue costs for such moves"
>Anika asks, "Not sonics or the skin potions or magic?"
>Maker says, "I understand the changes but I dont think there enough to make training hard in armor viable."
>You say, "Encumberance affects all armors, magical or mundane, but the magical armors have a reduced encumberance penalty"
>Leanna says, "Will there be a way to check to see how much one is encumbered? Or do we actually have that now? I admit, I still don't get our messages in relation to what encumberance would be."
Brude says, "Hide, stalk, steal, ambush, etc...  sneaky stealth-based actions are other likely candidates."
>You nod to Leanna.
>A savage howl fills the air as Feral herself erupts from the ground in a flurry of fangs and claws.
>You say, "I'll answer that in a moment Maker"
>You nod to Brude.
>Anika asks, "To keep using my sonic armor, am I going to have to train in Armor Use skill to get rid of all encumberance?"
>Anika asks, "Or will Orphic Arcana cover me there?"
>Anika says, "Like it seems to now."
>You say, "Remember that this is for encumbered armor wearers"
>You say, "Let me answer Leanna first for a moment"
>Anika nods to you.
>You say, "I plan to make that messaging about encumberance much clearer"
>You say, "Mabye even as a raw percentage or something"
>You ask, "Would you like to see the actual encumberance as a raw number?"
>Bontinor ponders.
>You say, "I know some players don't like numbers for RP reasons"
>Leanna says, "It'd be nice to be fairly exact, even if it's not a downright number."
>Essentius says, "I would think just a wider range of messaging would cover it."
>Leanna says, "If only for the fact that you're saying it may influence non-combat moves as well."
>A white halo blinks out of existence from around Maker's head.
>You nod to Essentius.
You nod to Leanna.
You say, "That's actually prefereable for me"
You say, "But I don't want the messaging to be a mystery for you either"
>Essentius says, "Just for Leanna."
>Essentius winks at Leanna.
>Bontinor says, "It might mean the return of the famous, 'It's amazing you're not squashed!'"
>Leanna sticks her tongue out at Essentius, and lets out with a loud, "Thbtbtbtbt" from her lips!
>You say, "I think the mystery of the messaging is part of the concern about players using mundane armors"
>You grin at Bontinor.
>Bontinor nods to you.
You ponder.
You say, "Maker was concerned that armor training wouldn't be viable if I made encumberance affect various verbs"
>Maker shakes his head.
>Essentius says, "I would liken it to experience messaging, it might take a bit of testing to figure out."
>Essentius shrugs.
You ask, "Okay.  Clarify please?"
>You peer quizzically at Maker.
>Maker says, "I dont believe all the changes combined will make training in the armor skill viable."
>You say, "Maybe a bit more distinct that that even Essentius - like telling how they're being affected by the encumberance"
>Essentius nods to you.
>Maker says, "At least if the list is all thats being done to it."
>You ponder the meaning of Maker's existence.
You ask, "Do you have any other suggestions then?"
>You ask, "Or ways to make it more viable?"
>Bontinor says, "Like how it is affecting your fatigue recovery, your balance, your agility, your speed, etc."
>Maker points at Bontinor.
>Maker appears to sag somewhat as if tired.
Maker says, "Armor that increases stats or skills maybe reduces fatigue costs."
>Maker asks, "Otherwise why train hard in Armor when you can train in some magic skill and get armor with it?"
>Leanna asks, "Because some of us don't RP magical characters?"
>Leanna grins at Maker.
>Bontinor says, "'free' armor, you mean."
>Bontinor nods to Maker.
>You say, "Well that's a large reason"
>You nod to Leanna.
>Magic is evil.
>You say, "But there has to be a real mechanical reason for game balance too"
>Essentius says, "The magical and orphic armors are being adjusted as well, don't worry."
Essentius grins at Maker.
>Magic resists all charges.
>Maker says, "Rp can be completely different  from what you acually hunt with."
>Anika stares at Essentius.
>Anika asks, "how?"
>Maker chuckles at Anika.
>Essentius says, "That's for Amaranth to go over."
>Essentius nods to Anika.
>You say, "I'll get to that more in a moment Anika"
>Anika mutters You're the one that brought it up.
>Anika sticks her tongue out at Essentius, and lets out with a loud, "Thbtbtbtbt" from her lips!
>Maker says, "Well if magical armor is being changed then, perhaps the changes will be  good enough."
>Anika mutters incoherently at Bontinor.
>You say, "But better armor skill will affect your ability to handle any fatiguing of acrobatic moves and other verbs that are affected by encumberance"
>Feral absently picks at her pointed teeth with an equally pointed claw.
>Leanna asks, "Will encumberance be relatively easy to offset if one regularly trains in, say, strength or some other skill?"
>Anika asks, "So...training in Armor will help you get less fatigued in general during a hun?"
You say, "The affect on the non-combat and acrobatic and stealthy moves might be able to be overcome by training in those skills, just like dodging skill can overcome heavy armor users currently"
Anika mutters Hunt, too
>You nod to Leanna.
>You say, "That's what I was getting at"
>You say, "I don't want such affects to be blatantly restrictive, but I do want them to make a difference"
>Scheherazade nods to Leanna.
>You say, "But then again if you don't train in armor at all and strap on armor pieces like a tank then don't expect to be doing jumping jacks and remain hidden either"
Brude chuckles.
>Seni chuckles.
>Essentius grins.
>Lifting its beak, a brilliant scarlet phoenix whistles a few soft, twittering notes before falling silent.
>Bontinor says, "You would no longer sneak east, you would sound like a pile of pie tins."
>Essentius says, "That would be funny to watch."
You say, "You might get less fatigued because your encumberance is lower, which is accompished by training in armor.  Yes."
>You nod to Anika.
>Anika asks, "Even if you rely on dodging and not armor use?"
>Anika says, "I'm very confused."
>Anika contorts her countenance in a quick frown.
>You grin at Anika.
>Seni says, "i reply on both"
>Seni grins at Anika.
>Seni says, "so i am just as confused as you"
>Seni giggles at Anika.
>You say, "Dodging would help overcome any dodging penalties that armor encumberance applies to combat's dodging routines"
>Anika says, "No no no...let's say that someone actually manages to go out into combat with NO armor on...and just dodges from every blow and such."
>You say, "So if you're encumbered by armor then you can't dodge well in combat.  But if you also train alot in dodging then you can overcome that penalty too"
>You nod to Anika.
>Anika says, "Maybe they used ranged weapons so are always backflipping out..."
>You say, "Okay..."
>Anika says, "That gets tiring."
>You nod to Anika.
>Anika asks, "Is training in armor going to overcome that constant fatigue?"
>Seni asks, "so in Seni language that i can understand if you train in dodge and armor your that much better off?"
>You say, "Oh no"
>Anika asks, "Even though they have no armor?"
>You shake your head.
>Anika says, "That's what I'm trying to clarify."
>Essentius says, "Armor skill won't help you if you're not wearing armor."
>You nod to Anika.
Essentius grins at Anika.
>Maker says, "Something too, I cant wear hand armor when I wear my claws. leaving my hands open to take full damage.....(armor 0, Alchemical skins 2)"
>Anika asks, "Does that include if you're not wearing mundane armor but have, say, sonic armor?"
>Feral says, "You can't expect to wear umpteen different things on your hands."
>You say, "Armor skill only reduces the fatigue that's caused by encumberance.  Since this theoretical archer isn't encumbered, they receive no benefit from the armor training (if any)"
>Feral says, "If you choose to use claws or wear brawling weapons instead.... that's up to you."
>Maker says, "So says the claw lady."
>Holyph says, "I've always wished we could wear coifs with helmets though."
>Maker chuckles.
>Holyph says, "Cuz well... that's what they're for."
>Holyph grins.
>Anika says, "Ok, lemme see if I'm getting this straight.."
>Anika says, "there's fatigue from just being active in combat."
>You nod to Anika.
>Feral says, "Every move has a fatigue cost."
>Feral nods to Anika.
>Anika says, "Then there's ANOTHER bit of fatigue from moving around in steel plates."
>Anika says, "Cause those are heavy and all."
>Anika says, "And they both work against you to make you tired."
>Feral says, "Ok, in real life..."
>Feral asks, "Would you expect to be more tired walking around carrying a full suit of steel plate?"
Essentius gasps at Feral!
>Feral asks, "Than not?"
>Seni says, "i would fall over"
>Seni grins at Feral.
>Leanna asks, "Without ending up in the psycho word or with?"
>Leanna says, "ward, rather"
>Essentius says, "I would look at you funny for running around in steel plate."
>Essentius nods.
>Seni grins at Leanna.
>Logos coalesces before you.
>Feral says, "Historically, warriors had to get used to their armour, they built the muscles and the stamina to be effective while wearing that extra weight."
>Logos says, "You're fine at renfairs."
>Feral says, "If you've ever tried on a chainmail tunic you'll realise how much armour really weighs."
>Feral grins.
>Logos says, "Armors are also not as heavy as they seem when distributed over the body."
>Feral tilts her head toward Logos.
>Leanna says, "My roommate makes chainmail. It's much heavier than I thought it'd be."
>Leanna chuckles.
>Feral says, "But it DOES make a difference when it's on over time."
>Feral nods to Leanna.
>Feral says, "Your shoulders take the brunt of the weight"
>You nod to Bontinor.
>Bontinor says, "Make sure you wear your tunic under it, though."
>Logos says, "Well chainmail tunics are different, yeah, they mainly weigh on the shoulders."
>Feral grins at Bontinor.
>Feral exclaims, "Chafing!"
>Anika says, "So the armor training is just like walking around the Palaestra with the armor on to get used to it...so when you're wearing it in combat, it doesn't feel so heavy."
>Bontinor looks over at Feral and shakes his head.
>Logos says, "Plate and things strapped across you is different."
>Bontinor says, "Hairy chest."
>Anika asks, "Like baseball batters warming up with a weighted bat before their turn, right?"
>Anika asks, "Am I wrapping my brain around it right now?"
>Feral grins at Bontinor.
>Feral nods to Anika.
>Feral says, "Most warriors would armour up a good few hours before any actual fight."
>Anika nods to Feral.
>Bontinor says, "And have help doing it."
>Anika says, "Now I get it."
>Feral says, "Yep"
>Feral says, "THen be winched onto their trusty steeds"
>Feral says, "And whatnot."
>Leanna says, "Right. Which is why I Think if you train in armor training, you should have a personal assistant included. Er.. Wait."
>Anika says, "So...non-armor users have to find othe wys to deal with their fatigue."
Anika giggles at Leanna.
>Seni grins at Leanna.
>You say, "Heh, mainly because it took all that time to get their buddy to strap all the armor and padding on too"
>Feral grins at you.
>Feral exclaims, "Squires!"
>Maker looks over at Anika and shakes his head.
>You nod to Feral.
>Feral says, "Hey that'd be a nifty sorta messaging addition."
>Holyph exclaims, "Patsies!"
>Feral grins at Holyph.
>You grin at Holyph.
>Feral exclaims, "run away!"
>Holyph yells, "Patsy!"
>Feral clears her throat.
>Holyph mutters something under her breath.
>Holyph says, "We're inside."
Holyph snaps her fingers.
>A troop of squires march into the room with picket signs.
>Maker says, "The only fatigue training in armor helps is fatigue from wearing and moving in armor."
>Bontinor says, "We'll get your mule to do that for you."
>Seni giggles.
>Essentius says, "It seems squires are not currently available."
>Anika says, "That's what I said."
>Anika nods to Maker.
>You nod to Maker.
>A brilliant scarlet phoenix hops on Scheherazade's shoulder, ruffling its feathers quickly before settling down.
>Feral says, "If a roguely type suddenly whacked on a full suit of plate"
>Anika says, "Non-armor users have to do something else, besides Armor Use skill, to get over fatigue from just jumping all over the place."
>Feral says, "They should fall over"
>Feral says, "And yell "Egads!""
>Feral nods wisely.
>Bontinor says, "Please don't get the idea that this is the only thing training in armor will do. What we're talking about right now is solely the effect training armor skill has on fatigue."
>You say, "What Bontinor was helping me clarify is that armor training reduces the amount that fatiguing combat moves are affected by the armor"
>Brude says, "Rogues don't say, 'Egads.'"
>Leanna says, "What rogues say is not allowed in a family forum."
>Feral nods to you.
>Anika says, "When they fall over from suddenly wearing too much armor, they will."
>Feral grins at Leanna.
>Anika winks at Brude.
>Anika giggles at Leanna.
>You say, "Let me turn back to something you were touching on earlier too, Anika..."
>Anika gazes at you.
>Bontinor listens to you intently.
You say, "...When I say 'armor skill' I really mean whatever skill is used to wear the armor"
>Holyph leans on her staff.
>You say, "For sonic nimbuses that'd mean Orphic skill I believe"
>You glance at Holyph.
>Anika says, "So with Sonic Armor, it's Orphic Arcana."
>Essentius nods.
>Anika asks, "Or for the alchemy skin potions, Alteration Alchemy right?"
>You say, "But regular armor skill has some affect as well.  It just mainly relies on Orphics"
>You say, "I believe so"
>Feral says, "You can dismiss magic from the equation."
>You nod to Anika.
>Anika says, "Train in that instead of Armor Use."
>Anika says, "So..."
>You say, "Yeah but training in armor will help a bit"
>Anika says, "Take me for instance."
>You say, "Since these are armors that we're talking about"
Anika says, "I have Orphic in Tier 1...so it's pretty derned well trained."
>You nod to Anika.
>Anika asks, "But..training a touch in Armor Use will help me move even BETTER in my nimbus?"
>You say, "Probably all you'll need to use nimbuses well"
>Anika says, "Ok."
>Logos says, "That sounds odd."
Anika asks, "But someone who had Orphic in, say, Tier 2 or 3 might want to train in Armor Use to help out?"
>Leanna snickers at Logos.
>You say, "It might not help because it'll cap at tier1 training"
>Feral tilts her head to the side.
>Anika asks, "Is that what you're saying?"
>You nod to Anika.
>(Anika nods emphatically.)
>Anika says, "Ok, understandable."
>Holyph says, "Glad you understand it."
>Holyph rubs her head.
>Anika mutters Which teaches us all to train Orphic in Tier 1.
>You grin at Holyph.
>Essentius says, "I would agree with that."
>Essentius grins at Anika.
>Anika flashes her teeth in an award winning smile.
>Holyph says, "I woulda said that two years ago."
>Holyph chuckles.
>Leanna says, "My orphic is tier one. But my armor is tier two. Hrm.."
>Leanna ponders.
>Anika says, "Give up that metal junk and just use a nimbus."
>Anika nods to Leanna.
>Leanna says, "My metal junk looks good."
>Leanna scoffs at Anika.
>Anika scoffs at Leanna.
>Seni grins at Leanna.
>Leanna says, "I don't wanna be all sparkly and look like I got lost in some cloud."
>Maker says, "I do know with armor skill in tier 1 it arsorbs about 40% damage"
>Leanna sparkles brightly.
>Leanna mutters something under her breath.
>Anika giggles.
>You nod to Feral.
>Seni grins at Leanna.
>Maker says, "While alchemical potions in tier 2 absorbs 50%"
>Maker hums with a knowing smirk on his face.
>You ponder.
>Seni grins at Maker.
>You ask, "Did I miss anyone's input from the past 5 minutes of discussion anywhere?"
>Leanna asks, "Okay. Can we talk about what the changes will do positively a bit more?"
>Leanna grins at you.
>You nod to Leanna.
>Seni asks, "i have dodge in second and armor third how will that effect me?"
>Seni chuckles at Leanna.
>You say, "When I made my initial thoughts on the changes I saw that there looked to be little benefit to the proposal so I gathered a bunch of nicer changes"
>Maker applauds you!
>You say, "One big benefit is the new armor attacks"
>Maker rolls his eyes.
>Bontinor grins at you.
>You ask, "Those aren't interesting to you?"
>Bontinor says, "Finally, a good reason to run around with a shield in each hand."
>You peer quizzically at Maker.
>You grin at Bontinor.
>Maker says, "thats nice if your in melee"
>Holyph exclaims, "Ooo, the Greaveous Backslash!"
Maker says, "I stay out of melee."
>Holyph says, "That can be one of the new attacks."
>Holyph nods to you.
>Feral says, "Well if you aren't in melee, armour isnt much use except against missiles anyway."
>Essentius says, "That's what I was just thinking."
>Bontinor nods to Feral.
>Essentius nods to Feral.
>Bontinor says, "True."
>Maker says, "Armor keeps me alive till i get out of melee."
>Maker chuckles.
>Feral says, "Which means you're IN melee"
>A brilliant scarlet phoenix hops on Scheherazade's shoulder, ruffling its feathers quickly before settling down.
>Bontinor says, "I think that's the general idea behind armor in any case, Maker."
>Seni says, "got ya there"
>Logos says, "Staying out of melee is rather difficult."
>Seni grins at Maker.
>Feral says, "At which point a shield bash or bracer dowhappy would be great."
>Bontinor says, "It keeps you alive until you're out of melee."
>Maker says, "well the last thing I  want to do is do a melee attack."
>Feral says, "That's your choice."
>Essentius asks, "Then what is it you want from armor?"
>You say, "THere is actually a change to armor use that will benefit you in that case though"
>Leanna says, "Right. You see, you use armor. To avoid being...killed. and you train other things, so you can run. Effectively. In the armor."
>Leanna whistles skillfully to herself.
>Feral says, "So for those who prefer ranged attacks, armour is just protection for when foes get too close."
>Maker nods to Feral.
>Feral says, "But for those who fight toe-to-toe..."
>You say, "That's the benefit of being able to land any incoming attacks on unarmored locations with an armored location"
>Feral nods to you.
>Feral says, "Also, if you have a steel-encased forearm..."
>Feral says, "Or a nice solid shield"
>Scheherazade says, "Armor just allows you to wallow more effectively in your own sweat and body filth."
>Scheherazade nods.
>Essentius says, "Umm, eww."
>You grimace.
>Feral exclaims, "Ooh!"
>Try fist/shoulder/body/jaw/teeth or <item>, <creature>, <person>.
>You pinch yourself.
Scheherazade chuckles.
>Maker says, "Shields..need to be worked on."
>Maker chuckles.
>Asantewaa just arrived.
>Asantewaa sinks down to the floor next to Maker.
>Maker strokes the back of Asantewaa's neck.
>Bontinor says, "I think you've lost us a bit."
>Bontinor nods to you.
>Scheherazade says, "Shields on chains that you can throw would be fun."
>You ponder the meaning of Scheherazade's existence.
>Logos raises an eyebrow in Scheherazade's direction.
>Scheherazade shrugs.
>You grin.
>Scheherazade says, "They would."
>Scheherazade grins.
>Logos asks, "Legend of Rsomething?"
>Logos rubs his chin.
>Scheherazade grins at Logos.
>You say, "It could happen"
>Scheherazade says, "Something like that."
>Essentius asks, "What about shields are you wanting changed?"
>Essentius peers quizzically at Maker.
>Scheherazade says, "So shields would fall under armor use..."
>Scheherazade says, "No getting lucky and hiding behind it."
>Scheherazade glances at something inside a violet-edged grey wool haversack.
>Logos says, "But at that point a shield would be a weapon."
>Logos rubs his chin.
>Scheherazade asks, "So would it be weapon use or armor use that made the attack?"
>You say, "That's one of the main changes"
>Bontinor says, "It was pretty common to use the size and mass of a shield to shove an enemy off his feet."
>Scheherazade asks, "Making my buckler a serving tray?"
>Scheherazade peers quizzically at you.
>Scheherazade grins.
>You say, "I'll be making armors/shields able to contain weapons"
>Maker says, "they block less if you blocked than you dodged if you dodge..hence you use a shield..you get hit more.  "
>Logos asks, "What about defensive weapons?"
>Scheherazade asks, "Like main gaches?"
Scheherazade grins at Leanna.
>Bontinor says, "The main gauche functions more in a parry capacity."
>Anika just left.
>You ask, "You mean like against brawling moves?"
>Scheherazade nods to Bontinor.
>You peer quizzically at Logos.
>A white halo blinks out of existence from around Asantewaa's head.
>Scheherazade grins at Leanna.
>Scheherazade chuckles.
>Logos says, "Weapons themselves have defensive attributes, the primary reason staves suck."
>Scheherazade nods.
>Scheherazade says, "I used one of those forever, didn't do anything it shoulda really"
Bard Anika just arrived.
>Anika moves towards the indigo silk cushion and settles down onto its smooth soft surface, swishing her tail idly over her back legs.
>Anika mutters something under her breath.
Scheherazade says, "No sweeps or blocks or parries which really makes a staff a staff."
>Bontinor nods to Scheherazade.
>Bontinor says, "No scooping someone's feet out from under them."
>Bontinor snaps his fingers.
>Scheherazade chuckles.
>Scheherazade says, "I'd go back to using a staff if it gave a defensive edge."
>You say, "That sounds more like a general combat application change but maybe Brude and I can think of adding something like that in general"
Leanna says, "One thing Maker brought up earlier- is armor going to have increase ability to take damage with this update? As other types of 'magical' armor seem better than regular."
You say, "I'm not sure how it'd affect combat balance though so it'd take more discussion and thought"
You nod to Leanna.
>You say, "In general, yes"
>Feral raises her hand.
>Feral gazes at you.
>You say, "Right now smaller armor pieces like arm greaves absorb less damage than larger armor pieces"
>Lifting its beak, a brilliant scarlet phoenix whistles a few soft, twittering notes before falling silent.
>Leanna grins at Bontinor.
You say, "With the change, they'll all absorb as much damage equally as long as they're made of the same material and construction"
You say, "Go ahead Feral"
>You nod to Feral.
>Feral nods.
>Feral says, "Ok, just to clear things up"
>Feral says, "Magical "armour""
Bontinor turns toward Feral.
>Feral says, "As of the redesign... this will no longer exist."
>Asantewaa listens intently to Feral.
Feral says, "There will be NO magical armour."
>Feral gazes around at her surroundings.
>Feral asks, "No outcry?"
Bontinor says, "They're still in shock."
>Asantewaa says, "Silently."
>Feral grins at Bontinor.
>Bontinor says, "Flooding AIM."
>Anika says, "Jostinian isn't here."
>You say, "By this I think she's talking about Magic as a skill"
>Feral snickers.
>Anika nods to Feral.
>Feral says, "Ok"
>Out in the distance you hear a mob forming to lynch Feral.
>A resplendent green parrot hops on Asantewaa's shoulder, ruffling its feathers quickly before settling down.
>Essentius asks, "Better?"
>Anika giggles.
>Feral says, "Basically the fake armour that currently exists will go down the plughole."
>Bontinor ponders.
>Maker asks, "she means all current magical armor will be using armor skill.?"
Feral says, "magic defense will become "bubble" based"
>Bontinor says, "Simple, elegant. I like it."
>Lifting its beak, a small brown finch whistles a few soft, twittering notes before falling silent.
>Anika asks, "So no more Mantle of Righteousness?"
Anika asks, "That sort of thing?"
>Feral says, "IE:  a magical shield that has X amount of HP absorbtion in it and so on"
>Feral says, "That will degrade over time"
Feral says, "and if/when it shatters and fails, there'll be a cast penalty to prevent immediate renewal."
>Bontinor says, "Force fields, in effect."
>Feral says, "So magical "armour" will be entirely unqiue to magic with its own penalties."
>Feral nods to Bontinor.
>Feral says, "Exactly."
>Feral says, "the strength of the field will be decided by your skill and so on."
>Feral says, "The backlash for the failing shield will provide some balance in the penalty."
>Scheherazade asks, "Can the speed of recast vary by skill too?"
>Feral says, "Soooo... it wont be anything like armour."
>Feral nods to Scheherazade.
>Feral says, "Yes."
>Scheherazade nods.
>Feral says, "Also, how BIG the shield is."
>Bontinor says, "Penalties for being interrupted while casting would still apply, presumably."
Scheherazade exclaims, "ooo, party shields!"
Feral says, "Obviously it will be a lot easier to cast a head-sized forcefield, than to cast a body-sized one."
>Essentius says, "Depends on the person."
>Essentius grins at Feral.
>Holyph chuckles.
>Feral says, "So skill will dictate shield size, shield effectiveness (% damage absorbed), and how many total HP it can handle."
>Anika asks, "Kinda like with scarabs?"
>Anika peers quizzically at Feral.
Feral says, "Sort of."
Feral says, "Except way more advanced and nowhere near as overpowered."
>Anika nods to Feral.
Feral says, "The moment I see people MEDITATING in combat..."
>Feral says, "I get annoyed."
>Feral grins.
>Bontinor grins at Feral.
>Bontinor says, "That, again."
>Essentius says, "And she's not pleasant when annoyed."
>Logos says, "Scarabs do have their own problems though."
>Feral says, "No matter how good your defenses are, you should never be able to fall over and take a nap while in the midst of a swarm."
>Feral says, "Scarabs and spirit shield allow that."
>Feral says, "Unfortunately."
>Anika giggles at Feral.
>Feral says, "Because they are both overpowered on their own"
>Feral says, "And can be stacked."
>Scheherazade chuckles at Leanna.
>Feral says, "Ends up that a player will take around 10% of the ACTUAL damage."
>Maker says, "Thats me."
>Feral says, "Whereas a critter will always take at least 80%"
>Maker hums with a knowing smirk on his face.
>Maker says, "40%"
>Feral says, "It might be, but it wont be"
>Essentius says, "Enjoy it while it lasts."
>Feral grins at Maker.
>Essentius grins at Maker.
>Maker says, "I am."
>Maker nods.
Feral says, "I'll prevent magic stacking with alchemy, or I will make it average with a cap."
>Maker asks, "How long will it last? before the changes?"
>Brude says, "Make them react.  Badly."
>Brude nods to Feral.
>Maker glares at Brude.
>Logos nods to Brude.
Feral says, "in this way, magic + alchemy will no longer result in a vastly superior set of defenses when compared with mundane."
>Bontinor points at Brude.
>Feral nods to Brude.
>Feral exclaims, "Backlash!"
>Anika lets out a hearty cheer for Feral!
>Anika clamps her hands over her mouth.
>Leanna grins at Anika.
>Feral says, "The magic fights with the scarab and blows it up"
>Bontinor says, "Magic and technology were never easy to get to play together."
>Logos says, "Generally I think two forms of defense should not work well together."
>Feral says, "Causing a whole big nasty mess of blood and body parts."
>Feral hums a happy little tune.
>Essentius says, "Such as, your scarab grips you tightly as it feels the spell activate, then bites you....HARD."
>Feral says, "Indeedy"
>Feral says, "So on and so forth."
>Holyph says, "Actually I always wanted to see effects work in tandem."
Anika gazes at Feral through narrowed eyes and lets out a soft purr of contentment.
>Bontinor says, "We're creative, we'll think of something."
>Feral asks, "Any questions on magic defense?"
Holyph says, "Mix and match, they could work really well together or one could make the other work less or it could work in reverse or totally make you explode."
>Lifting its beak, a brilliant scarlet phoenix whistles a few soft, twittering notes before falling silent.
>Logos says, "As the force field covers your body and passes over the scarab it causes a violent reaction with vaporizes everything within 20 feet."
>Feral nods to Holyph.
>Brude chuckles at Logos.
>Feral says, "There will be a cap on damage absorbtion."
>Feral says, "Essentially."
>Essentius says, "And if it happens in town you get arrested."
>Feral says, "If that cap is exceeded something will blow up."
>Essentius grins at Logos.
>Feral says, "And it wont be pretty."
>Leanna says, "Eh. Then they'd abuse it and kill everyone aroun them too. Repeatedly. For the heck of it."
>Logos says, "If you're surrounded, it'll be a good "For the good of my friends!" type move."
>Bontinor nods to Leanna.
>Seni asks, "the scarab thing will only be for things like spirit shield right?"
>Bontinor says, "Nobody tell Arcrest."
>Logos says, "Arresting a pile of ash seems difficult."
>Feral says, "Any magical defense."
>Essentius says, "You come back eventually."
>Holyph chuckles.
>Feral tilts her head toward Seni.
>Maker says, "no scarbs and mantles."
>Maker says, "no scarbs and spirit shield"
>Feral says, "Spirit shield + scarab = ow that hurt."
Seni says, "oh gods"
>Seni grins at Feral.
>Feral says, "Rather than... Hey I'm invincible."
>Maker says, "no scarabs and nimubes"
>Essentius says, "Though as she was saying, it will depend on your skills what mixing and matching you are able to handle."
>Bontinor says, "Or perhaps the two will interact in such a way that you will take 110% damage from all attacks."
>Bontinor ducks his head.
>Feral says, "It wasnt an issue before, because people couldnt multitrain"
>Anika glowers darkly at Maker.
>Feral says, "So the safeguards with stacking werent put in place."
>Feral says, "Now we have the freedom to train in a variety of skills, and we have to impose balance."
>A small brown finch hops on Leanna's shoulder, ruffling its feathers quickly before settling down.
>Seni asks, "so no more petitioner's gift and my scarabs?"
>Feral says, "There'll be a max absorbtion."
>Feral says, "Some may work in tandem, up to a point."
>Essentius says, "But no more blocking 90% of damage because of multiple types of defense."
>Feral nods to Essentius.
>Feral says, "Damn skippy."
>Scheherazade frowns in concentration as she scans her Mandarin scroll before putting it aside with a small sigh.
>Maker looks at Essentius and sighs.
>Essentius says, "Poor skippy."
>Maker says, "I hate you all."
>Maker nods.
>Holyph beams!
>Feral asks, "Any other questions on magical defense before I hand the floor back to Amaranth?"
>Essentius gets an impish expression on his face, and lets out a hearty cheer.
>Bontinor hugs Maker.
>Logos says, "Then we are doing our job."
>Anika giggles at Essentius.
>Feral grins at Logos.
>Maker says, "No touchie de giant."
>Essentius says, "That was the whole point of the changes."
>Feral bows to you.
>Essentius nods to Maker.
>Feral says, "All yours."
>Anika dusts off the indigo silk cushion and picks it up.
>Anika stretches out into a reclining position.
>Holyph asks, "Is it bad that we all responded happily over being hated?"
>Anika crawls to Maker on her belly, collapsing in his lap.
>Anika whistles skillfully to herself.
>Essentius says, "No, not really."
>Bontinor nods to Holyph.
>Essentius grins at Holyph.
>Holyph nods to Essentius.
>Anika places her indigo silk cushion on the floor and plumps it a few times.
>Anika crawls towards the indigo silk cushion and settles down onto its smooth soft surface, swishing her tail idly over her back legs.
>Maker snorts at Anika.
>Logos says, "If people are going to hate you, then you might as well revel in it."
>Bontinor says, "Because it means that our players aren't apathetic."
>Anika gazes at Maker and bats her eyelashes flirtatiously.
>Bontinor nods to Holyph.
>Feral says, "Hate"
>Feral says, "Is Great."
>Holyph grins.
>Essentius says, "IF we're getting too much love, we're doing something wrong."
>Feral hums a happy little tune.
>Holyph says, "That 'a' makes all the difference."
>Holyph nods to Bontinor.
>Feral smiles widely, showing her wicked, pointed teeth.
>Bontinor nods.
>Seni says, "no no love is good"
>Seni grins at Essentius.
>Bontinor says, "Must attend to business, back in a bit."
>A band of torch-bearing peasants march past, waving banners emblazoned with the legend, "HATE IS GREAT!".
>Anika giggles.
>Seni grins at Feral.
>Scheherazade sticks her tongue out at Leanna, and lets out with a loud, "Thbtbtbtbt" from her lips!
>Bontinor vanishes in a spectacular display of GM-ly might, just like every other GM.  Yawn.
>A lone peasant runs desperately to keep up with the rest, somewhat sheepishly waving a pitchfork.
>You say, "Okay, note that other than the conflicts between magic defenses and other non-mundane armors I see little other change to non-mundane armors"
Scheherazade grins at Leanna.
In a whirlwind of fangs and claws, Feral rises up into the air and blinks out of existance, leaving the echo of her maniacal laugh behind her.
>You say, "In fact after reviewing current non-mundane armors I can even see some becoming slightly mroe effective"
Holyph says, "Mroe is yayoi for less."
>Maker says, "Skill and stat enharrasing mundane armors would work."
>You say, "Scarabs are something I need to discuss more with the alchemy gurus before solidifying our plans with those"
>Holyph whistles skillfully to herself.
>Essentius says, "Hmm, harassing armor."
>Essentius ponders.
>Logos asks, "Armor that does inappropriate things in combat?"
>Makers helm begins to nag him.
>You say, "But one idea is to make them use this armor redirection skill to cover any unarmored locations"
>Maker blinks.
>Seni says, "now that i like"
Seni says, "but me without scarabs would kill Heemor "
>Seni grins at you.
>You say, "Well that's essentially what they currently do anyway"
>You chuckle at Seni.
>Seni asks, "what would i be without my ten sacks of scarabs to drag around?"
>You say, "But they really are very powerful as they currently stand"
>Essentius says, "You can keep your scarabs, just can't combine them with other armors."
>Essentius grins at Seni.
>Seni says, "oh no they are just right"
>Seni dissolves into a fit of giggles.
>You nod to Essentius.
>Maker says, "Other non alchemical armors"
>Seni says, "so if i wear a scarab i cant say wear my silver armor"
>Seni taps some etched silver bodice armor cast with golden owl feathers.
>You say, "You can but then the silver armor takes precedence when an attack hits that location"
>Essentius says, "As Feral mentioned, there will be a cap.  It's possible that your armor and the scarab would fall under that."
>You say, "If it hits your arm or leg then the scarab takes over"
>Seni says, "oh ok"
>Seni asks, "now i have health in first and armor in third which would be the one that takes over?"
>Seni says, "and dodge in second"
>You say, "You don't want to wear very much armor then"
>You grin at Seni.
>Essentius chuckles.
>You say, "mundane armor that is"
>Seni says, "nope i like this one"
>Seni chuckles.
>Seni says, "does pretty good"
>Seni chuckles.
>Seni says, "i live and i can run"
>Seni grins at you.
>Essentius says, "Might help with your getting lost, all that armor would keep you in one place."
>Essentius nods to Seni.
>Seni giggles at Essentius.
>Seni says, "me not getting lost would be like the sun not shinning"
>Seni grins at Essentius.
>You ask, "Wow, is there like some sort of little hummingbird that goes around to all the players to let them know about how lost you get?"
>You squint at Seni.
>Seni nods to you.
>You rub Seni.
>Essentius says, "Yes, it's called the thought net."
>Seni says, "they all hear me yellin for help"
>Seni dissolves into a fit of giggles.
>You chuckle.
>Seni nods to Essentius.
>Anika leans on Seni.
>Anika pats Seni on the shoulder.
>Asantewaa snuggles up close to Maker laying her head on his chest.
>Seni says, "i havent got lost in a long while now"
>Asantewaa lets out a loud sigh as she runs her hands through her hair.
>Asantewaa grumbles.
>Seni says, "then again i havent went anywhere new either"
>Seni chuckles.
>Maker strokes the back of Asantewaa's neck.
>Asantewaa mutters something under her breath.
>You say, "Like I said earlier though, I'm going to make every effort to make sure that the non-mundane armors see little loss and perhaps some gain in defensive effectiveness"
>You say, "The main idea is to make mundane armors more useful"
>Seni says, "for myself i just dont want to see all the training i put in go down the drain "
>Asantewaa glances at Seni.
>Asantewaa starts to say something, then stops.
>You say, "Mainly by increasing their ability to absorb damage and to make the use of Armor as a skill as much of a potential offensive skill as a defensive one"
>Seni says, "i have a little bit of everything "
>Seni says, "magic, armor, dodge "
>Maker asks, "Can you guys take a look at one spell for me?"
>Maker says, "Seems to me the life drain spell is overpowered."
>Maker nods to Holyph.
>Maker asks, "Anyone?"
>I could not find what you were referring to.
>Essentius says, "Magic is Feral's department."
>You say, "Feral would be the one to ask about that"
>Maker asks, "Whered smelly go?"
>Maker sighs.
>Maker says, "Someone send her my way when you get a chance please."
>Maker nods.
>A resplendent green parrot hops on Asantewaa's shoulder, ruffling its feathers quickly before settling down.
Ruffling its feathers, a small brown finch sings a few twittering notes on Leanna's shoulder before falling silent.
>You ask, "Okay so if you think that the proposed changes to stacking magic and alchemical armors are going to make a huge difference in your skills and defensive capabilites then can you voice those concerns now please?"
You stare at Seni.
>You gaze around in concern.
>Seni asks, "what i do?"
>Seni chuckles at you!
You grin.
>A savage howl fills the air as Feral herself erupts from the ground in a flurry of fangs and claws.
>Feral asks, "Hmm?"
Maker turns toward Feral.
>Feral says, "It will be."
>Feral nods to Maker.
>Maker asks, "Can you take a look at the Life drain spell?"
>You say, "I'm asking how I can make these proposed changes to magical and alchemical defenses less taxing"
>Maker says, "Ive been hit before with it by a magic user and it took 50% of my total life."
>Feral says, "Everything within magic will be looked at several ways from sunday"
>Maker nods to Feral.
>Feral says, "Including hand of Prometheus."
>Asantewaa says, "Lower the percentage, leave the stack."
>Asantewaa nods to you.
>Brude says, "It's good when critters have overpowered things."
>Brude nods to Maker.
>Feral says, "It will still work, but not QUITE how it currently does."
>Feral says, "We LIKE critters having overpowered things."
>Maker snorts.
>Feral says, "Because critters generally get the bad end of any deal."
>Essentius says, "Then we get to snicker and point while you're dying."
>Feral says, "You go and kill 20 odd of them without thought."
>Feral says, "Poor buggers."
>You ask, "Lower the percentage of the damage they can absorb?"
>Seni asks, "but isnt that what critters are there for?"
>Feral asks, "Would be nice if they occasionally were a threat, eh?"
>You peer quizzically at Asantewaa.
Seni dissolves into a fit of giggles.
>Asantewaa nods to you.
>Maker says, "well, one spell that bypasses all defense and hits for 50% of your life is a litt extreme."
>Feral nods to Maker.
>Feral says, "Indeed."
>Feral says, "For players, anyway."
>Asantewaa says, "I agree some of the % is high and needs lowering."
>You hear the voice of Logos ask, "Doesn't also heal the other party?"
>Essentius says, "I can bypass all defense and hit for 100%."
>Essentius hums!
>Maker chuckles at Essentius.
>Feral says, "I personally..."
>Feral says, "Only get any enjoyment from a hunt if there is risk involved."
>You ask, "Okay, so mainly just so you don't have to totally recongifure the training you've gotten acustomed to, eh?"
>Feral says, "If I HAVE to pay attention and think on my feet."
>Logos says, "There is difference between risk and interest."
>Seni says, "i like not having to think hurts my head too much"
>Seni grins at Feral.
>Logos says, "Only avoidable risk that causes you to make intelligent decisions makes you pay attention."
>Anika says, "And for some, there's no interest if there's no risk."
>Anika sticks her tongue out at Logos, and lets out with a loud, "Thbtbtbtbt" from her lips!
>Feral nods to Logos.
>Asantewaa says, "Partly, but mostly I don't see why with the skills we couldn't stack, don't make sense."
>Feral says, "Exactly"
>Feral says, "Threat."
>You ponder.
>Feral says, "You can overcome it, if you're paying attention."
>Essentius says, "Feral did say that some stacking may be possible."
>Logos says, "If the risk is, randomly you die.  That isn't much fun to me."
>Feral says, "But if you're not then you deserve a painful death."
>Essentius says, "up to a point."
>Logos says, "I get bored with gambling."
>You say, "I think the main concern was that the stacking was making things uber defensively powerful for many"
>Leanna says, "As long as there are critters at every level that you can hunt WITHOUT having to use magic and alchemy, that's fine."
>Feral says, "Not randomly."
>Leanna says, "but when it comes to the point that only alchies and priests can hunt effectively, something's wrong."
>Leanna chuckles.
>Anika agrees with Leanna.
>Feral says, "But if you pick a fight there SHOULD be a risk of death."
>You ask, "But please calarify this stacking of magical and alchemical defenses for us if you can Fera;?"
>Feral nods to Leanna.
>Logos says, "I was illistrating the difference between pure risk and interesting combat."
>Feral says, "Exactly."
>Asantewaa says, "But you take that factor out if you just lower % of damage absorbed."
>Feral says, "The fact IS"
>Feral says, "With the way things stand currently..."
Essentius says, "The only problem with that is, we don't want to FORCE people to stack."
>Feral says, "Either the lower end of skills have a beatable challenge, and the higher end have an easy job"
>Bontinor just arrived.
>Feral says, "or the higher end get challenged and everyone else dies."
>Asantewaa says, "Personal choice."
>Feral says, "That's why stacking is a bad thing"
>Feral says, "Because if you allow multiple defenses, you have to build critters that can still threaten that."
>Essentius asks, "Why would you want to stack, when you can get your maximum defense from one type?"
>Feral says, "And for those who dont have multiple defenses...."
>Asantewaa asks, "So then you are going to force us to decide on alchie or magic, where is the difference?"
>Feral says, "No, not decide"
>Feral says, "There'll be caps."
>Feral says, "If you wish to get the FULL benefit of once, then you will sacrifice the effectiveness of the other."
>Asantewaa says, "If I can't use scarabs with spirit shield I'm forced to choose."
>Maker says, "you can use them, but only one will work."
>Maker says, "or they work together at 50%"
>Maker chuckles.
>Asantewaa asks, "So what's the point in skilling in both then?"
>Feral asks, "Do you think it fair that you can stack scarab, spirit shield AND armour and thusly be vastly more effective than those making a ROLE-PLAYING choice of only mundane?"
>Feral asks, "Do you think that hunting should be a doddle for you and a constant hardship for others?"
>Asantewaa says, "Their choice."
>Maker tickles Asantewaa.
>Feral shakes her head.
>Asantewaa says, "I'm saying lower the %."
>Logos says, "Well"
>Logos says, "You are correct."
>Feral says, "I already said I would"
Feral grins at Asantewaa.
>Asantewaa says, "That is to high."
>Seni says, "they are choosen to RP it that way"
>Feral says, "Hence the caps."
>Asantewaa says, "Leave stack."
>Logos says, "And they're trying to balance that choice."
>Feral says, "SOME stacking will be available."
>Logos draws attention to Amaranth.
>Essentius says, "You're both saying the same thing actually."
>Logos draws attention to Feral.
>You nod to Logos.
>Feral nods to Logos.
>Feral says, "Exactly"
>Feral says, "Choice within boundaries."
>A resplendent green parrot hops on Asantewaa's shoulder, ruffling its feathers quickly before settling down.
>Leanna says, "This is an RPing game as well. You can choose to make a detrimental RP choice, but choosing a viable skill path because of RP shouldn't completely screw you over."
>Feral nods to Leanna.
>Feral says, "Exactly."
>Maker says, "You can stack all day but end up capped at the same with the pwrson wearing regualr armor."
>Feral nods to Maker.
>Feral says, "Indeed."
>Leanna says, "I mean, there's things I know I'll NEVER hunt because Leanna does not use magic or alchemy. But that doesn't mean I shouldn't be able to hunt ANYTHING on level."
>Maker nods to Asantewaa.
>Feral says, "Certain skills will aid you more against certain critters"
>Feral says, "But that balance already exists."
>Feral says, "The balance that currently doesnt exist..."
>Leanna says, "I think all this is is saying, "Hey, if you want to choose to be a pure warrior, that's okay! We'll find a way. And you won't suck for it.""
>Essentius says, "Basically, no more uber-hunting, without nasty painful results."
>Feral says, "IS the fact that alchemy and magic can stack and by FAR outweigh anything mundane defense can achieve."
>You say, "I think what really threw her pretty tail feathers into a total flutter is when you said things about scarabs exploding and turning everything in a 20 foot radius into a pool of red blood"
>You grin at Feral.
>Feral exclaims, "Hey that'd be fun!"
>Feral says, "Blood.. flesh.. body parts."
>Seni nods to you.
>Feral asks, "What's not to like?"
>Bontinor says, "So long as you were 21 feet away, sure."
>Seni says, "you need help"
>Seni grins at Feral.
>Feral smiles widely, showing her wicked, pointed teeth.
>Essentius says, "We've tried, it didn't help."
>Essentius nods to Seni.
>Logos says, "I was thinking more of a glowing sphere of nothingness."
>Feral says, "There will always be choice."
>Logos says, "Just... gone."
>Essentius says, "She skinned the therapist."
>Feral says, "We simply want to make sure that choice and flexibility doesn't CRIPPLE anyone."
>Anika giggles at Essentius.
>Seni asks, "but what will happen to the ones that like to do a little bit of everything?"
>You nod to Feral.
>Maker asks, "what about resists?"
>Feral says, "If we have to build a critter that's tough enough to go up against a stacking alchy/magician"
>Essentius says, "Then they can, but they will stack up to the cap and no more."
Feral says, "That critter would slaughter a mundane user in 2 seconds"
>Feral says, "Which isnt fair."
>Maker asks, "magical resists?"
>Logos says, "Or an alchy and magic user who doesn't stack."
>Feral says, "So on and so forth"
>Feral says, "We basically will impose an OVERALL cap"
>Essentius says, "This way, everyone will have an even chance of THEIR skill getting an equal benefit."
>Feral says, "Ashmael is damn nigh invincible."
>Feral says, "And she doesnt touch alchemy"
>Feral says, "If she used alchemy AS WELL..."
>Feral says, "She'd be Wazza reincarnated."
>Seni chuckles.
>Seni says, "hey i miss Waaza"
>Seni chuckles.
>Feral says, "Compare that to other people who just dont want to use magic or alchemy..."
>Feral says, "If you build a critter to threaten Ash, you've built one that'll kill most other players"
>Feral says, "That isn't fair."
>Feral asks, "Agreed?"
>Essentius nods.
>Maker says, "if it pays well it would be fair."
>You nod to Feral.
>Maker snickers.
>Bontinor says, "If you live to spend it."
>Feral says, "Only GM's are nodding."
>Feral says, "I must say I'm disappointed."
>Maker says, "Hence the challenge."
>Maker nods to Feral.
>Maker says, "Its fair."
>Essentius says, "It's all about balance."
>Feral says, "I'm sure everyone would like to be an invincible player that can bully all the others."
>Bontinor says, "Some people will miss what we are labeling (whether they agree with it or not) as their 'unfair' advantage."
>Feral says, "But at the end of the day - not on."
>Feral nods to Bontinor.
>You say, "I think that it's hard for players to understand why they can't make the most of training in both alchmey and magic"
>Feral says, "They can."
>Maker says, "when will these changes be implemented..and dont say "Soon."
>Bontinor nods to Feral.
>Feral says, "But not to the degree that they become twice as powerful as anyone else of the same level."
>Anika says, "At a time that is not now."
>Anika nods to Maker.
>Essentius says, "Quit stealing my lines."
>You nod to Feral.
>Leanna says, "I agree it's not fair. I just didn't realize the question was to all of us."
>Leanna grins.
>Anika gazes at Essentius and bats her eyelashes flirtatiously.
Bontinor says, "You can fight at full level with a warstaff while using a magic bubble at full strength."
>Feral says, "If your shield fails.."
>Bontinor says, "Just don't try to use a skin with a bubble."
>Feral says, "You can whack on a scarab"
>Brude says, "Any limitations on a handful of abilities' interacting still leaves scads more abilities from the skills in question availible."
>Feral says, "And so on"
>Ruffling its feathers, a brilliant scarlet phoenix sings a few twittering notes on Scheherazade's shoulder before falling silent.
>Feral says, "You just can't be EVERYTHING at once."
>You nod to Bontinor.
>Feral nods to Brude.
>Feral says, "We can implement cross-skill moves"
>Essentius says, "You can, but it may cause you to be ripped apart in bloody pieces."
>Seni says, "i like being a little bit of everything"
>Seni chuckles.
>Feral says, "Like I mentioned at con."
>Feral says, "Sorry, lectured at length at con"
>Feral grins.
>Essentius says, "A little of everything is one thing, all of everything is another."
>Leanna asks, "Theoretically, this isn't preventing someone from being a bit of everything, is it? As long as each of their abilities falls under the cap?"
>Anika squints at Feral.
>Feral says, "There will be benefits and additions."
>You hear the voice of Jubalee say, "Essentius is just stuck on the ripped apart in bloody pieces bit."
>Anika mutters I must've been asleep during that lecture..
>Feral says, "But not to the extent that any one player can be invincible compared to another of the same level."
>Feral nods to Leanna.
>You say, "I think that's exactly what we wanted to say Leanna"
>Bontinor says, "Now if there's alchemy protection from a petroleum beastie and magical protection from an undead beastie, and you're in an area where both can be found, then it would be a choice to wear them both at 50/50 effectiveness or go 100% into either one."
>Essentius says, "Ripped in bloody pieces is fun."
>Feral says, "There'll be choices"
>
Jubalee appears in a whirlwind of confetti and party streamers.
>Jubalee leans on Essentius.
>Feral says, "There'll just be caps in place to prevent those choices unbalancing the game."
>Essentius says, "I know I know, been hanging around Feral too much."
>Feral says, "rather than.. for instance..."
>Feral says, "Magic + Alchemy = invincible"
>
Jubalee is suddenly gone, sucked up in a whirlwind of confetti!
>Feral says, "Magic + alchemy will equal some moves that wouldnt otherwise be available."
>Feral says, "And so on."
>Feral says, "Split skill"
Ruffling its feathers, a small brown finch sings a few twittering notes on Leanna's shoulder before falling silent.
Feral asks, "make sense?"
>Bontinor says, "it'll be Toejam and Earlius."
>Feral says, "point in fact..."
>Feral says, "Ashmael, at one point..."
>Feral says, "Kicked Zhana's butt"
>Feral says, "Zhana was over TWICE Ashmael's level"
Feral says, "The difference was that Ash multitrained and Zhana didnt"
>Feral says, "Unfair."
>Feral says, "And if anyone tells Zhana that they will die"
>Asantewaa starts to say something, then stops.
>Feral grins.
>Bontinor asks, "Multiple times?"
>Essentius says, "Even if you don't, you'll probably die anyway."
>Bontinor peers quizzically at Feral.
>Anika removes a huge stack of papers from her opal-clasped satchel.
>Feral nods to Bontinor.
>Anika removes a violet-covered stylus topped with a sprig of ivy from her canvas sack.
>Feral says, "Every time"
>Essentius says, "Cause, that's life."
>Essentius grins.
>(Anika begins writing, "Dear Zhana, just a note to let you know...")
>Essentius says, "Well, actually it's death I suppose."
>Essentius ponders.
>Feral says, "Ash defeated people .5 to 2 x her level"
>Anika clears her throat.
>Seni grins at Anika.
>Anika puts a violet-covered stylus topped with a sprig of ivy in a white canvas sack with an oval-shaped black opal clasp.
>Anika puts a huge stack of papers in an extravagant opal-clasped satchel.
>Anika says, "I'll finish later."
>Anika twiddles her thumbs.
>Feral grins.
>Feral says, "even field"
>Feral says, "Basically"
>Feral says, "if players are more equal... we wont have to muck up critters so much"
>Bontinor exclaims, "Amen!"
Bontinor agrees with Feral.
>Feral says, "Which means everyone has more options"
>Feral says, "If you want to kick people's arses in the arena...."
>Feral says, "Be smart about tactics."
>Feral says, "Not numbers."
>Feral shrugs.
Feral asks, "Any more questions to me?"
Bontinor gazes around at his surroundings.
>Bontinor says, "I think you've shocked them all into silence."
>You grin at Bontinor.
>Essentius says, "Seems like everyone agrees that we should do whatever we want."
>Essentius nods.
>Bontinor says, "Or at least into numb."
>Essentius hums!
>Maker says, "i stil lsay stat/skillincreasing armor would be nice."
>Essentius says, "There are those that would agree with you, I'm not one of them."
>Essentius grins at Maker.
>You chuckle at Essentius.
>Maker says, "noone asked you."
>Maker turns his back on Essentius.
>Essentius says, "Makes no difference."
>Maker snickers.
>Anika says, "Blast him or something."
Anika nods to Essentius.
>Maker says, "Shush already."
>Maker nods to Essentius.
>Essentius says, "If I must."
>Asantewaa says, "Yous just said a mouth full."
>Asantewaa nods to Essentius.
>You ask, "Sante... before you seemed to indicate that if we dropped the damage absorption for magical and alchemical defenses rather than make you choose one over the other that you'd be satisified?"
Essentius gazes at Maker in child-like innocence.
>Asantewaa nods.
(Maker looks around for his tongue)
>Seni grins at Maker.
You say, "Okay, I'm pretty sure that's what Feral was insisting we do."
>Essentius says, "You did ask me to shush you."
>Asantewaa says, "Sorry I don't think not being able to use both skills at the same time is right, I trained to use both, now being told I can't."
Essentius says, "You can use them both, just not to the overpowering level you have enjoyed previously."
>Anika stands up.
>Anika dusts off the indigo silk cushion and picks it up.
>You say, "And if she wasn't then I'll work with the scarab GM and her to make sure it's a viable option"
>Anika says, "Excuse me."
>Anika waves.
>Bontinor nods to Anika.
>You say, "Thanks for coming Anika"
>Feral says, "I'm not saying you cant use both Asantewaa."
>Asantewaa says, "I used Spirit Shield and a scarab, I heard one of the other wouldn't work."
Feral says, "I'm just saying that I wont give you a 70% damage absorbtion over someone elses 15% absorbtion."
>(Maker writes on the floor "Anyone see my tongue?)
>Maker frowns.
>Feral says, "I'm looking at a total defense cap"
>Maker babbles incoherently.
>Asantewaa says, "So raise theirs lower ours but leave stack alone, I agree the % for alchie and magic is high."
>Feral says, "that could be made up of any number of things"
>Maker glares at Essentius.
>You nod to Asantewaa.
>You say, "That's what I'm shooting for"
>Feral says, "That's what we're saying"
>Feral nods to you.
>Feral says, "We have overall caps PER level"
>Maker says, "Asante came in late."
>You say, "Mundane armors will see an increase"
>Feral says, "Per skill, and so on."
>Essentius says, "That's exactly what she's been saying."
>Essentius nods.
>Maker strokes the back of Asantewaa's neck.
>Feral says, "you will still have choice"
>Essentius says, "Like I said earlier, you're both saying the same thing, but in different ways."
>Feral says, "But said choices wont make you 10 times more effective than everyone else"
>Feral asks, "Make sense?"
>Bontinor says, "And those choices will offer options."
>Feral nods to Bontinor.
>Asantewaa asks, "But that's not what I heard when I come in, I heard we wouldn't be able to stack, which is it?"
>Feral grins at Asantewaa.
>Essentius says, "You won't be able to stack to an overpowering level."
>Feral says, "Some things wont be stackable."
>Feral says, "To the degree that they are now."
>Essentius says, "You will be able to stack up to a point, which will be available to someone that isn't stacking also."
>Feral says, "I can't redo scarabs to fit because I dont control scarabs."
>Essentius says, "If I'm hearing Feral correctly."
Feral says, "Master scarabs currently offer a ridiculous level of damage absorbtion."
>Feral says, "If the alchy guru will work with us, they'll be included in the "stackable cap""
>Feral says, "Otherwise, I'll prevent the stacking"
>Asantewaa asks, "Who's the guru?"
>Feral says, "Schism."
>Maker asks, "Wanderpoodle?"
>Asantewaa says, "I'll kick his arse to do it."
>Feral says, "Who has already expressed an interest in doing this"
>Bontinor says, "To make a jewelry analogy, you'll be able to wear a bracelet, necklace and tiara all at the same time, and it'll enhance your wardrobe. But you'll no longer be able to wear everything in your jewelry box at the same time and expect your attractiveness to hit godly levels."
>Bontinor winks.
>Feral nods to Asantewaa.
>Feral says, "I just cant speak for him."
>Maker asks, "what ever happened to wanderpoodle?"
>Feral says, "The ideal is to allow stacking, but with caps."
>Asantewaa says, "Who cares."
>You say, "Note that Schism understands that scarabs will need to be brought down a notch because of the way they stack"
>Asantewaa grins at Maker.
>You nod to Feral.
>Feral nods to you.
>Brude stands up.
>Brude picks up an uncomfortable chair.
>Brude says, "G'night."
>Brude begins humming a soft, sad tune that hangs in the air moments after you realize that he is gone.
>Bontinor waves.
Maker says, "I still vote for Stat/skill increasing armor."
Bontinor ponders.
Bontinor says, "Hmm...armor that, while worn, increases your cooking skill."
>Bontinor nods to Maker.
Bontinor makes a note.
>You grin at Bontinor.
>Maker says, "Asante would appreciate that."
>Maker nods to Bontinor.
>Asantewaa says, "I don't cook."
>Asantewaa folds her arms across her chest and fixes Maker with a stern gaze.
>Feral says, "If there's an increase, there should be a decrease somewhere else."
>Essentius says, "Armor that increases your appearance could happen."
>Maker says, "Me cook silly."
>Maker tickles Asantewaa.
>Essentius says, "But it would also drop your strength."
>Essentius grins.
>Asantewaa says, "Oh."
>Asantewaa says, "good."
>Asantewaa grins at Maker.
>Feral gazes at Asantewaa.
>Feral asks, "Do you understand the theory?"
>Feral asks, "Is your mind put at rest?"
>Asantewaa says, "I understand it......"
>Asantewaa says, "But......"
>Asantewaa says, "and not being sarcasic here."
>You nod to Asantewaa.
>Bontinor listens intently to Asantewaa.
Asantewaa says, "But if one Guru wants to change one thing, and it's going to affect something that another Guru is in charge of, you all need to work together, so there isn't a change that will upset people."
Feral nods to Asantewaa.
>Feral says, "Correct."
>You say, "We're actually doing that more than you might realize too"
>Feral nods to you.
>Asantewaa says, "Good."
>Feral exclaims, "I mean, we're both here!"
>Asantewaa smiles.
>Feral beams at you!
>Essentius says, "Although, it's very close to impossible to change things without upsetting SOMEONE."
>Maker says, "Lets go fore we get bathed in blood..again."
>Maker nods to Asantewaa.
>Feral says, "And that's mundane VS magic right off."
>Asantewaa grins at Maker.
>Essentius says, "There's a lot of coordinating going on."
>Essentius nods.
>Feral says, "We just have to spank people."
>Feral says, "Which is fine."
>Feral says, "We like it."
>Feral nods.
>Bontinor says, "More than most."
>Logos raises an eyebrow in Feral's direction.
>Seni giggles at Bontinor.
>Asantewaa says, "Spank me baby."
>Asantewaa winks at Feral.
>Essentius asks, "Are we still adding that spanking skill?"
>Feral exclaims, "Not you!"
>Seni snickers at Asantewaa.
>Feral's blood-red eyes seem to glow with violent rage as she leaps upon Asantewaa's back with a savage howl!  Her claws dig into Asantewaa's arms as Feral sinks her wicked teeth into her shoulder.  Feral laughs maniacally as she springs from Asantewaa's back to the ground, a gleeful smile on her face as she wipes Asantewaa's blood from her mouth.
      ...Asantewaa takes 272 points of damage.
>Asantewaa sits up.
>Asantewaa gazes at Feral with a dreamy look on her face.
>Feral sticks out her tongue and lets loose with a loud, "Thbtbtbtbt" from her lips!
>Logos asks, "Who gets spanked?"
>Logos peers quizzically at Feral.
>Feral says, "Schism."
>Bontinor says, "Anyone who asks for it."
Feral says, "is top of the list."
>Feral says, "Then anyone else we feel like."
>Essentius says, "Just take that as a stock answer."
>Asantewaa says, "You tell him Sante will hunt him down and put a arrow in his arse Goding or not."
>Feral asks, "Any other questions?"
>Asantewaa grins.
>A resplendent green parrot lifts its head and nuzzles Asantewaa's ear before warbling a heart-rending melody.
>Attucus just arrived followed by Lytaria.
>Attucus sits down.
>Asantewaa says, "Your late, it's over."
>Lytaria chuckles.
>Essentius exclaims, "Ok, Forum over!"
>Asantewaa grins at Attucus.
>You say, "Better late than never"
>Seni says, "late as always dear brother"
>You grin at Attucus.
>Seni grins at Attucus.
>Attucus chuckles.
Seni hugs Lytaria.
>Feral applauds Essentius!
>Essentius hums!
>Seni hugs Attucus.
>In a whirlwind of fangs and claws, Feral rises up into the air and blinks out of existance, leaving the echo of her maniacal laugh behind her.
>Lytaria hugs Seni.
>Essentius says, "Kidding, kidding."
>You hear the voice of Feral say, "I wasn't."
>You hear the voice of Feral say, "I'm not here."
>Lytaria says, "forgot all about it"
>You say, "Let me open up another are of potential concern though..."
>You hear the voice of Feral ask, "Must you?"
>You ask, "Does anyone have any fears about the level requirements I suggested for armors?"
>Essentius says, "It seems she must."
>Lytaria sits down next to Attucus.
>Seni grins at Attucus.
>Attucus ponders.
>Essentius says, "I would put it in as a skill req, rather than level."
>You nod to Essentius.
>You say, "Yeah, it'll be based on skill moreso than level"
>Essentius nods.
>Attucus asks, "I don't wanna wear anything heavy, how does leather work out?"
>Essentius says, "I figured that's what you meant."
>Essentius grins at you.
>Essentius says, "Great minds and all that."
>You say, "Leather will have no skill requirement so new players can use it"
>Attucus says, "Yay, i'm a new player again."
>Attucus beams!
>Seni raises her hand.
>Lytaria chuckles.
>Seni grins at Attucus.
>You say, "Studded leather will be slightly better though so it'll take a smidge of skill to use"
>Essentius says, "Ok, new players and old players that don't actually hunt that much."
>Essentius winks at Attucus.
>You nod to Seni.
>Attucus glances at Leanna.
>Attucus nods to Essentius.
>Leanna glances at Attucus.
>Seni asks, "if we find that we can not hunt on level with the skilsl we have now will we get a chance to change it without loosen anything?"
>Lytaria gazes around at her surroundings.
>Seni says, "experience i mean"
>You say, "Leanna's more concerned that her great fashion sense won't have to suffer due to the changes"
>You grin at Leanna.
>Attucus grins.
>Leanna snickers at you.
>You ponder the meaning of Seni's existence.
>You ask, "A chance to change what exactly?"
>You ask, "Your skills?"
>Seni says, "i ask cause i have a little of everything in first and i still dont get how it is gonna work"
>You ask, "Or your armor?"
>Seni nods.
>Seni says, "yea with dodge and armor in second and third"
>Asantewaa rummages around in her pockets.
>You say, "Hmm..."
>You ask, "You mean a free reallocation?"
>Asantewaa nods.
>Seni says, "i dont want to have to go and leap to change up my armor just cause i cant use it with magic anymore"
>Seni says, "i guess ya"
>Seni grins at you.
>You say, "Honestly I'd rather you didn't have to reallocate at all ideally"
>Maker stands up.
>Maker joins Asantewaa's group.
>Seni says, "me too"
>Seni chuckles.
>Asantewaa stands up.
Asantewaa says, "Thanks for putting up with me."
>Asantewaa grins.
>Asantewaa gazes around at her surroundings.
>Seni says, "has taken me this long to get Seni right where i want her in hunting"
>You smile at Asantewaa.
>You exclaim, "Thanks for your input!"
Asantewaa says, "Hey I never talk in these things, but you hit a nerve this time."
>Asantewaa gets a silly grin on her face.
You say, "I really appreciate you expressing these concerns to us"
Essentius nods.
>Lifting its beak, a brilliant scarlet phoenix whistles a few soft, twittering notes before falling silent.
>You say, "It's truly invaluable to hear"
Asantewaa nods to you.
>Asantewaa smiles.
>Asantewaa waves.
>Essentius says, "Then we know EXACTLY what to change to irritat....I mean keep things well balanced and make people happy."
>Essentius coughs.
>You say, "But I'll strongly consider a free reallocation pending approval from the higher-ups"
>Seni says, "but with magic, health and orphic all in first i dont understand how it will work"
>Attucus ponders.
>Seni says, "i would rather i didnt have too"
>Seni grins at you.
>Leanna stands up.
>Attucus asks, "Is this armor change that big of a deal to have a free allocation?"
>You say, "I don't think the players in general would like to have to reallocate though.  I think they'd rather keep the skills they have"
>Seni says, "i know i would"
>Seni chuckles.
>Seni says, "and yes Attie"
>Seni chuckles at Attucus.
>You say, "Only in that it might affect your ability to use your armor at all"
>Seni says, "see what ya get for being late"
>Seni grins at Attucus.
>Leanna just arrived.
>Attucus says, "Hey leave me be, I was busy getting my other rogue killed by a hold person spell."
>Essentius dissolves in a shower of golden sparks as he heads off.
Attucus grins.
>Seni says, "i dont use magic armor i just use the health spell with my scarabs and my armor bodice"
>Seni giggles at Attucus.
>Seni says, "and it works well now"
>Seni says, "and i understand there has to be a balance"
>You say, "At your skill level you'll be able to use platemail Seni"
>Seni nods.
>Seni says, "i like my silver"
>Seni chuckles.
>Seni says, "the whole stacking thing is way over my head"
>Seni says, "not a word"
>Seni glances at Attucus.
>Attucus asks, "Since new heroes can wear leather from the start, are there bonuses to keep up the training in in and stay in leather?"
>Lytaria chuckles.
>You say, "Mainly we just don't want a level ten player running around with iron platemail"
>Seni says, "i can understand that"
>Seni chuckles.
>You rub your chin thoughtfully.
>Lytaria asks, "why would anyone want iron platemail....have you ever SMELLED those things?"
>Lytaria shudders.
>Seni chuckles at Lytaria.
>Seni says, "i like my nice silver"
Seni says, "dont stink and is nice and shinny"
>Seni grins at Lytaria.
>You say, "Yes.  You gain more attacks in using the leather and more skill in redirecting blows to land on the leather and better damage absorption rates"
>Lytaria mutters something about thick walls.
>You say, "It's an interesting question though Att"
>You say, "Better stun resistance too"
>Attucus says, "Along the lines of more attacks.....< buckle in and take a deep breathe>"
>You grin at Attucus.
>Lytaria rolls her eyes.
>Attucus says, "I already hit four times with Ambush MID."
>Attucus says, "Per attack."
>Attucus asks, "What would change on that?"
>Attucus ducks his head.
>Seni says, "on that note"
>Seni says, "i am takin my headache to be"
>Seni giggles.
>You grin at Seni.
>You say, "Sleep well."
>Seni says, "you can explaine it all to me in Seni terms tomorrow"
>Seni giggles at Attucus.
>Attucus hugs Seni.
>Seni stands up.
>Seni hugs Attucus.
>Seni hugs Lytaria.
>Seni gives you a tight hug that releases the giddiness of benevolence from you.
>Seni says, "i love that smell"
Seni giggles.
>Lytaria hugs Seni.
>Seni says, "night all"
>Seni waves.
>You wave.
>Lytaria waves.
>Bontinor smiles seni
>You ask, "You mean how would ambush be affected by armor changes?"
>You peer quizzically at Attucus.
>Bontinor snaps his fingers.
>Attucus says, "Well yeah, you said we'd get more attacks by wearing lighter armor."
>Lytaria chuckles.
>You say, "Ah, I meant more armor attacks"
>Attucus ponders.
>Attucus asks, "Lost me, how does that work?"
>Leanna grins.
>You say, "I know... leather armor won't have many potent armor attacks"
Attucus asks, "An armor attack is?"
>You say, "'New attack verbs will be added including slashing for sharp-edges shields, bashing for shields with a "boss" (a raised adornment on the face of a shield) or a spike, body slams for spiked breastplates, kicks for spiked or steel-toed armor boots, etc.... "
>Attucus says, "So it sounds more like unarmed with armor as the weapon."
>Bontinor says, "Think of it like armor fighting back."
>You nod to Attucus.
>You say, "For the most part, yeah"
>Attucus says, "Bummer, dudes and dudettes."
>Ruffling its feathers, a small brown finch sings a few twittering notes on Leanna's shoulder before falling silent.
>You say, "But you won't need a free hand and some might be passive attacks"
>Attucus nods.
>Bontinor says, "Those spikes on your shoulders will finally be good for more than keeping pigeons from landing on you."
>Lytaria asks, "like the stupid mermal runs headlong intoo your pointy shield?"
>You snicker at Bontinor.
>Attucus crosses his eyes.
>You nod to Lytaria.
>Lytaria chuckles.
>Bontinor says, "More like if you block said mermel with your shield, the shield might bite back."
>Attucus says, "Those aren't spikes, there actually my shoulders."
>Attucus glances at Bontinor.
>You ask, "You're aminly a leather armor user then?"
>You peer quizzically at Attucus.
>Attucus taps Leanna lightly on her shoulder.
>You see Attucus, a male Human.
He has shoulder-length, wavy golden-brown hair that is loose, crystal green eyes, tanned skin, and sports a trim beard.
He is not holding anything at the moment.
He is wearing some grey light leather embossed with tiny daggers.
He is in good health.
He is sitting.
>Attucus taps some grey light leather embossed with tiny daggers.
>Leanna mutters incoherently at Attucus.
>Attucus gets a silly grin on his face.
>You nod to Attucus.
>Leanna says, "I should get a dinar everytime someone does that."
>Lytaria chuckles.
>Attucus says, "Though I did recently acquire Auto's vest, it's bronze."
>You say, "In case folks forgot... you can LOOK <player> ARMOR to see their worn armor"
>Lytaria just handed Leanna a dinar.
>Leanna grins at Lytaria.
>Lytaria grins.
>You hear the voice of Feral ask, "Can I kill everyone yet?"
>You say, "I'd be interested in hearing what ideas you'd like for leather armors though"
>You say, "It seems alot of players might be interested in leather armor largely for a style/roleplaying choice"
>* Essentius just got flayed!
* Alas, poor Essentius!  Hades shall know him well.
>You say, "You'd certainly overcome many stealth/ambush penalties quickly of course"
>You see Bladeswoman Lytaria, a female Human.
She has very long, wavy silver hair that is loose, violet eyes, and lily white skin.
She is not holding anything at the moment.
She is wearing some amethyst studded moon-etched bracers.
She is in good health.
She is sitting.
>Attucus says, "Well without plate, steel, etc, weighing us down, quicker reflexes to avoid taking hits and a faster chance to flip out of combat to escape where someone with the heavier armor have no chance to flip or tumble."
>Lytaria blinks.
>You nod to Attucus.
>You say, "Definitely"
>Attucus says, "Sorry, love."
>Attucus grins at Lytaria.
>You say, "You weren't here for this before but we were talking about how encumberance will affect armor users so leather will be easy to overcome the encumberance of."
>Attucus nods to you.
>Attucus says, "And no armor would affect people less than that."
>You grin.
>You say, "One thing I'm beginning to ponder is the location of the armor in relation to encumberance too"
>A brilliant scarlet phoenix hops on Scheherazade's shoulder, ruffling its feathers quickly before settling down.
>Attucus asks, "Thinking about hit locations and called shots?"
>Attucus peers quizzically at you.
>You say, "I have to think more on it but firing a bow shouldn't really apply encumberance from armor on the legs"
>Bontinor asks, "Unless you're kneeling/sitting?"
>You nod to Bontinor.
>Bontinor looks thoughtfully at you.
>Bontinor says, "Ok, so maybe a little from armor on the legs."
>You say, "Right"
>You say, "Hit locations are of course already present in limitted form"
>Attucus nods.
>You say, "We plan to expand those though with these changes"
>Attucus asks, "So, should I do some heavier reading on my 3.5?"
>Attucus cowers in fear.
>You grin at Attucus.
>Attucus asks, "Everyone's like huh?"
>Attucus nods to you.
>You say, "It's just you two so whatever questions you have..."
>Leanna grins.
>Attucus ponders.
>You say, "Three.  Sorry"
>Attucus says, "I think i'm questionless for the moment."
>Lytaria says, "I don't actually USE my armor often enough to really care..."
>Lytaria winks at you.
>You grin at Lytaria.
>Lytaria grins.
>Attucus says, "But she should, tell her she should."
>Attucus nods.
>Lytaria says, "I'm just listening"
>You say, "You'll regret not using it once the changes are made"
>You wiggle your eyebrows.
>Attucus mutters I hate being the one to wear the armor in the family sometimes.
>Lytaria says, "I'd have to hunt"
>Lytaria grins.
>You chuckle.
>Lytaria says, "I have it, and I wear it when I actually do hunt"
>Attucus says, "Cept where is it now? "
>Attucus hums to himself and tries to look innocent.
>Lytaria says, "on Mule"
>Lytaria pokes Attucus in the ribs.
>Attucus says, "Where all good armor should be in preparation for invasions."
>Attucus grins.
>You say, "Okay, I'm going to end the forum then and post a log of it on the Mentor website."
>Attucus nods to you.
>You say, "Folks can still respond to the message boards as per NEWS 37"
>Lytaria stands up.
>You say, "Thanks for coming folks"
>Attucus exclaims, "Thanks for the cookies and milk!"
>Attucus stands up.
>Leanna grins.
>Lytaria chuckles.
>You exclaim, "And keep any suggestions coming too!"
>Attucus nods.
>Holyph leans on her staff.
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