Announcement: The Crafting Forum is now starting in the Council House in NW Athens.  See NEWS 48 for details on how to find it, even though you've already missed part of it.

>Quinlax says, "I'll beat you all"
>Quinlax nods.
>Seni says, "well then she needs a spot"
>Seni chuckles at Astraea.
>Bontinor says, "Right, then."
>Liye says, "I'd just like to be like 50"
>Liye says, "I'll be happy then"
>Liye says, "I'm tired of being in the 20's"
>Bontinor says, "I'd like to thank..."
>Vatholian says, "Maybe some ogre type things."
>Bontinor gazes around at his surroundings.
>Liye says, "But now that i can read a map"
>Quinlax asks, "Me?"
>Liye chuckles at Bontinor.
>Quinlax gazes at Bontinor.
>Liye asks, "The academy?"
>Bontinor says, "...so many of you for coming to tonight's forum."
>Nymphette pokes Calestoa in the ribs.
>Leanna asks, "Soldiers mad that we took away their source of pay?"
>Quinlax says, "It's still upside down"
>Leanna snickers.
>A mangy black buzzard suddenly leaps from Quinlax's shoulder to the floor searching for morsels to snack on. After a moment, it lurches into the air to fly once around Quinlax's head before it returns to its original perch.
>Quinlax nods to Liye.
>Calestoa giggles at Nymphette.
>Liye says, "Hurry up and get to underwater basket weaving"
>Leanna coughs.
>Leanna makes a shushing noise.
>Liye folds her arms across her chest.
>Bontinor says, "Which has now begun."
>Astraea says, "Ok I know nothing about crafting... so Im being shushing now."
>Arlene nods to Calestoa.
Astraea beams!
>Arlene smirks.
>Leanna grins at Astraea.
>Seni snickers at Astraea.
>Bontinor says, "Which means that it will be much easier for us to get some serious discussion down if we don't all keep babbling about other topics."
>Attucus nods to Bontinor.
>Liye says, "That means he's gonna silence us"
>Liye sighs.
>Arlene ponders.
>Lifting its head, a frothing mermel chitters quietly, as it watches the area alertly.
>Bontinor says, "I'll start off the way we usually start off, which is to ask if there's anyone here who doesn't know what this crafting thing is all about."
>Astraea exclaims, "Ta!"
>Jacinda grins at Astraea.
>Astraea dissolves in a shower of golden sparks as she heads off.
>Bontinor waves.
>Nymphette says, "I don't really"
>Nymphette gazes at Bontinor.
>Nymphette says, "apart from basket weaving"
>Bontinor asks, "Are there people here who have never done any sort of crafting in any game, anywhere?"
>Liye says, "Underwater basket weaving"
>Calestoa raises her hand.
>Bontinor asks, "Anyone?"
>Bontinor searches around for a moment.
>Seni raises her hand.
>Nymphette raises her hand.
>Attucus says, "I have and am."
>Attucus nods to Bontinor.
>Quinlax says, "Underwater underwear basket weaving"
>Calestoa says, "I never have"
>Bontinor says, "Ah, there's one."
>Nymphette says, "three"
>Nymphette nods to Bontinor.
>Liye says, "I've done crafting in several other games so am aware of the concept"
>Liye says, "Player made items"
>Bontinor nods.
>Liye says, "Viable economy"
>Liye nods.
Bontinor says, "Yup."
>Nymphette says, "some examples of what people can make would be nice"
>Bontinor says, "We will no longer have the monopoly on 'stuff' in the game."
>Liye takes a drink from her mug.
>Nymphette stands up.
>Bontinor says, "You'll be able to make things of your own, usually out of other items that you have found, purchased, or culled from treasure."
>Nymphette nods.
>Quinlax nods.
>Nymphette says, "excuse me a moment"
>Bontinor says, "Or, possibly, from things other people have already made."
>Bontinor asks, "Yes, Nymphette?"
>Bontinor blinks.
>Bontinor says, "And then she was gone."
>Seni chuckles.
>Quinlax says, "I think she meant excuse me a moment while she left"
>Bontinor says, "Here I thought she wanted to ask a question."
>Amaranth asks, "Perhaps she meant "excuse me, I need to leave for a moment"?"
>Leanna says, "Think she was excusing herself as in.. yeah,"
>Leanna nods to Quinlax.
>Liye nods to Quinlax.
>Nymphette just arrived followed by Zanzibar.
>Zanzibar asks, "any good?"
>Amaranth nods to Leanna.
>Seni nods to Quinlax.
>Miakoda just arrived.
>Leanna grins.
>Nymphette grins at Zanzibar.
>Calestoa beams at Miakoda!
>Zanzibar sits at Nymphette's feet.
>Nymphette sinks down to the floor next to Zanzibar.
>Miakoda beams at Calestoa!
>Arlene holds hands with Miakoda.
>Miakoda hugs Calestoa.
>Miakoda gives Calestoa a lingering kiss.
>Bontinor grins at Nymphette.
>Calestoa hugs Miakoda.
>Calestoa kisses Miakoda deeply.
>Miakoda says, "Hi everyone."
>Miakoda grins.
>Nymphette looks at Bontinor and blushes.
>Gammyde says, "Fashionably late, as Gerett would say."
>Gammyde chuckles.
>Bontinor says, "Here I'd only just begun, and I thought I'd already bored someone into leaving."
>Quinlax says, "You confused the mighty one"
>Nymphette grins.
>Bontinor says, "Thought it was a new record."
>Bontinor says, "Anyhow..."
>Nymphette says, "no, I had to get someone"
>Nymphette snuggles up close to Zanzibar laying her head on his shoulder.
>Asantewaa says, "They're easily confused."
>Asantewaa nods to Quinlax.
>Miakoda sits down next to Calestoa.
>Bontinor says, "Yes, you'll soon be able to make stuff out of other stuff, which you may or may not be able to make into other stuff, etc, etc."
>Calestoa snuggles up close to Miakoda laying her head on her shoulder.
>Nymphette frowns.
>Zanzibar chuckles.
>Arlene gives Nymphette a little shake.
>Nymphette gazes at Arlene.
>Calestoa raises her hand.
>Arlene mutters something under her breath.
>Bontinor says, "One moment, Calestoa."
>Calestoa nods.
>Gammyde asks, "Are origami and whittling also included in what we're discussing, Bontinor?"
>Quinlax hiccups.
>Quinlax blinks.
>Quinlax coughs.
>Arlene looks at Nymphette and sighs.
>Seni giggles at Cervesus.
>Cervesus says, "don't forget sewin', Gammy"
>Arlene disbands her group.
>Gammyde nods to Cervesus.
>Bontinor says, "Hold that thought a moment, Gammyde."
>Gammyde nods.
>Bontinor asks, "Calestoa?"
>Bontinor peers quizzically at Calestoa.
>Bontinor asks, "You raised your hand?"
>Calestoa asks, "Could you be more specific as to what stuff is?"
>Nymphette agrees with Calestoa.
>Bontinor grins.
>Seni says, "please"
>Calestoa says, "I have no clue as to what you are speaking of"
>Liye sighs.
>Bontinor nods to Calestoa.
>Liye says, "Can we be quiet and listen to Bontinor"
>Liye says, "And maybe everyone will know what's going on"
>Zanzibar smiles at Nymphette.
>A mangy black buzzard skitters along Quinlax's shoulder anxiously.  It squawks once before finally settling down.
>Bontinor says, "So long as we don't get too furious with the questions, I'm happy to answer them as they come up."
>Bontinor says, "Let me see if I can answer both questions at the same time."
>Zanzibar nods to Nymphette.
>Gammyde holds hands with Asantewaa.
>Gammyde holds hands with Cervesus.
>Bontinor says, "This is going to be a big change, and right now nothing is set in stone as far as what will come of what, but take the following as examples."
>Bontinor says, "You might be able to forage up a branch and carve or whittle it into a club."
>Quinlax says, "Neat"
>Quinlax coughs.
>Zanzibar chuckles.
>Zanzibar kisses Nymphette on the fingers.
>Arlene nods.
>Bontinor says, "Or you might be able to buy a chunk of ivory from a store (or dissect it from a creature) and then shape it into some sort of eating utensil, or a comb."
>Miakoda asks, "Or a wearable relic?"
>Nymphette grins at Miakoda.
>Miakoda crosses her fingers.
>Calestoa grins at Miakoda.
>Miakoda giggles.
>Bontinor says, "This means that some current 'crafts' are going to undergo changes...like whittling, for instance."
>Bontinor says, "Some of 'em, frankly, could use the change."
>Nymphette raises her hand.
>Seni raises her hand.
>Nymphette grins at Seni.
>Nymphette smiles at Zanzibar.
>Bontinor asks, "Have I answered your questions, C & G?"
>Calestoa nods to Bontinor.
>Nymphette snuggles up close to Zanzibar laying her head on his shoulder.
>Arlene nods.
>Calestoa says, "Thank you, Now I have an idea of what you are speaking of"
>Bontinor peers quizzically at Gammyde.
>Bontinor says, "Gammy must be in shock."
>Gammyde asks, "I understand where whittling fits in, but origami?"
>Nymphette grins.
>Gammyde says, "Nah, just toungue-tied as usual."
>Gammyde grins.
>Bontinor says, "Ideally, everything that currently lets you make something from something else will convert over to the crafting system."
>Gammyde says, "Okay, good enough for me."
>Gammyde nods to Bontinor.
>Bontinor says, "No guarantees, though."
>Cervesus raises his hand.
>Bontinor says, "Some things may be too entrenched to convert soon, or ever."
>Bontinor says, "But we're gonna try and make it all make sense."
>Bontinor asks, "Nymphette?"
>Nymphette asks, "is there a skill we'd need to train to be good at crafting?"
>Bontinor grins.
>Bontinor says, "You have good timing."
>Nymphette smiles at Bontinor.
>Zanzibar says, "she always does"
>Zanzibar chuckles to himself.
>Nymphette smiles at Zanzibar.
>Miakoda giggles.
Llorien just arrived.
>Llorien sits down.
>Seni says, "yes cause that was kinda my question too"
>Seni giggles at Nymphette.
>Zanzibar licks Llorien on the side of the face.
>Bontinor says, "Crafting is going to be completely (or at least 95%) separate from the current exp system."
>Nymphette gets a happy expression on her face!
>Llorien pokes Zanzibar in the ribs.
>Nymphette says, "oh good"
>Deryni ponders.
>Nymphette asks, "but we get exp for doing it?"
>Bontinor says, "So you'll be able to concentrate on the things that matter most to what you want to do."
>Nymphette says, "oops 2 questions.."
>Miakoda just left.
>Arlene nods.
>Bontinor grins at Nymphette.
>Leanna beams!
>Seni chuckles at Nymphette.
>Nymphette bites her tongue.
>Bontinor says, "It's the same question, or at least relates to what I'm about to say."
>Nymphette listens intently to Bontinor.
>Bontinor says, "When you earn experience in crafting, it will not help you fight any better."
>Zanzibar kisses Nymphette on the ear.
>Zanzibar chuckles.
>Quinlax raises his hand.
>A small golden snake uncurls from about Llorien's finger and coils about her right wrist, where it goes still.
>Bontinor says, "Likewise, when you slaughter a forest full of defensless trolls, this will not help you sew."
>Nymphette nods to Bontinor.
>Nymphette chuckles.
>Quinlax scoffs.
>Zanzibar smiles at Bontinor.
>Arlene says, "unless they are sewing trolls.."
>Arlene drums her fingers against her chin.
>Gammyde grins at Arlene.
>Nymphette chortles at Arlene.
>Zanzibar glances at Arlene.
>Jacinda chuckles at Arlene.
>Quinlax says, "Not that defenless if they killed me earlier"
>Zanzibar hisses at Arlene.
>Bontinor says, "this means that it's possible to meet someone who can't hold their end in a fight, but who can make the finest suit of armor to be found anywhere this side of an Auction."
>Deryni grins.
>Arlene raises an eyebrow in Zanzibar's direction.
>Quinlax chuckles.
>Cervesus mutters well how bout if ya sew the trolls together in a neat bunch, eh?
>Calestoa says, "oh cool"
>Zanzibar licks Arlene on the hand.
>Bontinor says, "Or a warrior who can't mend his own socks."
>Liye just left.
>Arlene edges away from Zanzibar.
>Quinlax says, "Warriors aren't civilized"
>Quinlax says, "they don't need socks"
>Lifting its beak, a mangy black buzzard squawks harshly, as it watches the area alertly.
>Calestoa pulls at her socks.
>Quinlax grins at Calestoa.
>Calestoa grins at Quinlax.
>Zanzibar says, "yes, that is correct"
>Cervesus knocks Quinlax on the back of the head.
>Zanzibar grins at Quinlax.
>Cervesus shows Quinlax his tightly woven socks.
>Bontinor asks, "PJs with feet, then?"
>Bontinor winks at Quinlax.
>Calestoa grins at Cervesus.
>Nymphette laughs!
>Gammyde giggles.
>Nymphette snuggles up close to Zanzibar laying her head on his shoulder.
>Quinlax exclaims, "I have a pair!"
>Quinlax shows Cervesus his red socks.
>Arlene says, "i dont have any socks"
>Arlene says, "guess i'm uncivilized"
>Arlene flashes her teeth in an award winning smile.
>Nymphette pats Arlene on the shoulder.
>Zanzibar slaps his palm against Arlene's palm!
>Bladeswoman Liye just arrived.
>Liye settles down onto the floor.
>Liye says, "Ow"
>Bontinor asks, "Seni, did you have something to add, or did you want to ask something completely different?"
>Seni asks, "will we have separate training points for crafting?"
>Nymphette snuggles up close to Zanzibar laying her head on his shoulder.
>Zanzibar chuckles at Nymphette.
>Seni smiles at Bontinor.
>Vatholian raises his hand.
>Gammyde's skin shimmers briefly.
>Nymphette grins at Zanzibar.
>Cervesus nods to Quinlax.
>Bontinor says, "Remember that everything I tell you know is of current vintage, and may not be part of the final release."
>Seni nods to Bontinor.
>Nymphette chuckles at Bontinor.
>Seni says, "i remember"
>Seni chuckles at Bontinor.
>Gammyde wilts a trifle.
>Bontinor grins at Seni.
>Bontinor says, "No."
>Seni asks, "so maybe maybe not?"
>Seni chuckles at Bontinor.
>Bontinor says, "There will only be one training point for crafting skills."
>Bontinor says, "And that'll be wherever you happen to be at the moment."
>Llorien raises her hand.
>Deryni peers quizzically at Bontinor.
>Attucus peers quizzically at Bontinor.
>Zanzibar glances at Bontinor.
>Seni peers quizzically at Bontinor.
>Gammyde says, "Ahhhh."
>Seni says, "am lost"
>Seni chuckles.
>Llorien raises her hand.
>Seni says, "as always"
Gammyde asks, "So the more we do, the better we'll get?"
>Seni giggles.
>Gammyde peers quizzically at Bontinor.
>Bontinor nods to Gammyde.
>Gammyde scratches her head.
>Zanzibar says, "this sounds familiar"
>Bontinor says, "Got it in one, Gammyde."
>Zanzibar chuckles.
>Gammyde looks very pleased with herself.
>Quinlax says, "Kinda like DR's skill system"
>Seni chuckles at Gammyde.
>Cervesus nods to Quinlax.
>Zanzibar says, "exactly Quin"
>Attucus asks, "So we'd all start at level 1, rather than what our current level is?"
>Nymphette nods to Zanzibar.
>Quinlax says, "That's my question"
>Gerett just arrived.
>Gerett plops down onto the floor.
>Zanzibar raises his hand.
>Bontinor says, "People have jokingly referred to our game as Dragonstone III, now we're actually in danger of resembling that remark."
>Nymphette grins at Bontinor.
>Quinlax says, "No no"
>Gammyde says, "We've got better people."
>Quinlax says, "They are AOH 2 and AOH 3"
>Gammyde chuckles.
>Gammyde nods to Quinlax.
>Nymphette kisses Zanzibar softly on the neck.
>Gammyde slaps her palm against Quinlax's palm!
>Deryni says, "We'd still be better."
>Deryni grins.
>Zanzibar says, "that is what is good about this land Bontnor"
>Attucus says, "We're still HX."
>Attucus whistles skillfully to himself.
>Zanzibar says, "Bontinor.."
>Gammyde grins at Attucus.
>Bontinor says, "But yes, it'll be more along the lines of ... the more you do, the better you get."
>Zanzibar smiles.
>Liye raises her hand.
>Zanzibar raises his hand.
>Liye takes a drink from her mug.
>Nymphette grins at Arlene.
>Seni says, "wow i will be as good as Llorien at something"
>Seni giggles at Llorien.
>Nymphette slowly runs her fingers through Zanzibar's loose, silver hair.
>Seni ducks her head.
>Llorien says, "Don't count on it chickie."
>Bontinor instructs:

     For the curious, the current list of hand raisers is as follows:
     Cervesus
     Quinlax
     Vatholian
     Llorien
     Zanzibar
     Liye

>Llorien grins at Seni.
>Seni giggles.
>Attucus raises his hand.
>Calestoa giggles.
>Gerett raises his hand.
>Zanzibar glances at Nymphette.
>Nymphette grins at Zanzibar.
>Bontinor says, "Awright, now it's getting ridiculous."
>Bontinor chuckles at Attucus.
>Leanna ponders.
>Bontinor asks, "Anyhow...Seni, did that answer your question?"
>Seni says, "yes thank you"
>Seni smiles at Bontinor.
>Amaranth says, "Add Attucus to the list, I believe"
>Bontinor says, "Already have."
>Liye stands up.
Bontinor says, "Right before Gerett."
>Liye says, "i'll ask on the boards"
Attucus smiles.
>Liye bows.
>Liye says, "I need to sleep"
>Bontinor waves at Liye.
>Nymphette waves at Liye.
>Llorien hugs Liye.
>Vaftel just arrived.
>Liye waves at Bontinor.
>Bontinor says, "Thanks for stopping by, Liye."
>Liye says, "Or I'll ask on the boards"
>Liye waves.
>Bontinor says, "We're up to Cervesus."
>Bontinor asks, "Well, Soldier? What's on your mind?"
>Zanzibar kisses Nymphette on the fingers.
>Seni chuckles at Cervesus.
>Nymphette smiles at Zanzibar.
>Cervesus asks, "well, ya sorta hinted at this a minute ago, with that bit about the best armor this side of auction -- what's the top end gonna be like on this?  will we be makin' stuff that's unique, along the lines of a poor man's alter?"
>A mangy black buzzard suddenly leaps from Quinlax's shoulder to the floor searching for morsels to snack on. After a moment, it lurches into the air to fly once around Quinlax's head before it returns to its original perch.

>Llorien removes her snake charm.
Llorien puts a snake charm in a white lionskin backpack embroidered on the back with a solitary black gryphon.
>Quinlax stands up.
>Nymphette smiles at Zanzibar.
>Smith Quinlax just arrived.
>Quinlax sits down.
>Bontinor says, "We're still a bit sticky on the alter part of things, but that's more to do with the system mechanics."
>Preening itself, a frothing mermel chitters quietly on Arlene's shoulder before falling silent.
>Cervesus ponders.
>Nymphette gently strokes Zanzibar's hair.
>Nymphette kisses Zanzibar on the cheek.
>Cervesus asks, "so the eventual best we can do is still undecided, then?"
>Bontinor says, "It's harder to add text to things than you might think, which makes it very difficult to do outside of an actual alteration."
>Jacinda says, "Your items if you have the appropriate skill should be higher than shop quality and below auction quality."
>Cervesus nods.
>Bontinor nods to Jacinda.
>Bontinor says, "But as for the quality of items, you can think of it pretty much how you'd think of it with any artisan in the real world."
>Cervesus asks, "well, I can see that -- can I toss in a suggestion then?"
>Zanzibar nods to Nymphette.
>Bontinor says, "You go to the department store for the best in mass-produced product. But when you want something of true quality, you go to the artisan."
>Bontinor says, "The idea is for it to be pretty much the same here."
>Cervesus says, "since it might be tough to do the text, how about if someone achieves a certain level of skill, allowing them a hallmark, so the things they make will have something to show who made 'em"
Bontinor says, "You'll be able to make stuff that's better'n store-bought, but don't expect to be able to do it right away."
>Bontinor nods to Cervesus.
>Jacinda grins at Cervesus.
>Bontinor says, "We want to. We really want to."
>Cervesus nods.

>Bontinor says, "It's just a matter of finding somewhere to put the "This was made by..." someplace on the item."
>Cervesus says, "I'd expect it'd take a lot of skill to earn one, but it'd give folks somethin' to shoot for"
>Cervesus says, "wouldn't necessarily even need "this was made by" -- might just be a symbol of some sort unique to the maker"
>Bontinor nods to Cervesus.
Gammyde grows visibly calmer.
>Nymphette snuggles up close to Zanzibar laying her head on his shoulder.
>Attucus smiles.
>Seni says, "like the cloaks have the frog thingy on them"
>Seni smiles at Cervesus.
>Bontinor says, "It's not the doing of it that is hard, but rather the how to do it so it works with everything."
>Cervesus nods to Seni.
>Nymphette kisses Zanzibar on the hand.
>Deryni nods.
>Cervesus says, "understood"
>Cervesus says, "thanks, think that covers it for me"
>Bontinor says, "Boy, I'm starting to confuse myself with that sentence."
>Bontinor says, "Lemme try again."
>Bontinor chuckles.
>Zanzibar kisses Nymphette on the ear.
>Zanzibar nods to Nymphette.
>Seni says, "welcome to my world"
>Seni giggles at Bontinor.
>Cervesus asks, "so it works with any sort of product, eh?"
>Bontinor says, "It's not that we can't do it. We can. It's just making sure that if we do, it doesn't screw anything else up."
>Bontinor nods to Cervesus.
>Cervesus nods to Bontinor.
>Quinlax chuckles.
>Seni chuckles.
>Bontinor says, "So we don't have one way for weapons, and one way for clothing, and one way for armor, and one way for food, and one way for furniture, etc."
>Bontinor says, "When we can come up with a way that'll work for everything, we'll do it."
>Cervesus says, "sounds fair"
>Bontinor chuckles.
>Bontinor says, "Now you've given me the idea for a craft...making sigils."
>Cervesus chuckles.
>Quinlax nods.
>Seni chuckles.
>Bontinor exclaims, "Sounds like there'll be a market for it!"
>Bontinor grins.
>Bontinor says, "Right. On to the next customer. I believe that was ..."
>Bontinor glances at Quinlax.
>Bontinor exclaims, "...Quinlax!"
>Bladeswoman Lytaria just arrived.
>Gammyde says, "Put me on that list..."
>Quinlax looks very pleased with himself.
>Gammyde raises her hand.
>Gammyde grins.
>Attucus smiles.
>Quinlax asks, "What I win?"
>Lytaria sits down next to Attucus.
>Attucus hugs Lytaria.
>Lytaria nuzzles Attucus.
>Arlene says, "the chance to talk"
>Seni says, "you get to talk"
>Arlene nods to Quinlax.
Seni giggles at Attucus.
>Quinlax says, "I talk anyways"
>Quinlax mumbles something under his breath.
>Bontinor says, "You win the chance to comment, complain or just sound off."
>Gammyde says, "Quinlax, you putz."
>Gammyde giggles.
>Seni snickers at Gammyde.
>Arlene says, "you get to talk without us making faces at you"
>Nymphette asks, "he does?"
>Quinlax says, "Anyways this is a duel-parter"
>Nymphette pouts at Arlene.
>Seni giggles at Arlene.
>Cervesus exclaims, "don't promise that!"
>Arlene grins.
>Nymphette agrees with Cervesus.
>Bontinor says, "Though right now you're working on our lovely consolation prize, where you gleefully hand your place in line to Vatholian, who is waiting patiently."
>Bontinor winks at Quinlax.
>Nymphette grins at Bontinor.
>Zanzibar chuckles at Bontinor.
>You hear a loud "CRACK!" as Vatholian rolls his head around on his neck.
>Nymphette claps her hands.
>Attucus gently strokes Lytaria's hair.
>Quinlax asks, "Are stats going to be a factor in crafting?"
>Zanzibar kisses Nymphette on the fingers.
>Lytaria snuggles up close to Attucus laying her head on his shoulder.
>Arlene says, "then we can make faces at him"
>A frothing mermel crawls around Arlene's body tickling her mercilessly!
>Quinlax asks, "Combat skills I understand, but stuff like strength and intelligence?"
>Bontinor says, "Honestly? I don't know. And here's why."
>Quinlax says, "I want to be lied too"
>Quinlax nods to Bontinor.
>Bontinor says, "The stuff that matters for each craft will depend completely on that craft."
>Arlene hums beneath her breath.
>Bontinor says, "Every craft can be completely different."
>Quinlax nods.
>Zanzibar raises his hand, palm out, in Bontinor's direction.
>Bontinor says, "If they want intelligence to matter, it will. If you can only do something while you're in your private home, that can be done, too."
>Bontinor says, "It's all up to the person making the craft."
>Bontinor says, "Which is why I have to say that I don't know."
>Quinlax nods.
>Bontinor says, "Since I'm not the person who's going to make all the crafts."
>Quinlax asks, "Also, will everyone start off at the same skill or will our current levels effect our crafting skill?"
>Bontinor says, "I'm currently heavily involved in building the underlying engine, but the engine is being built so that the craft maker can pick and choose whatever they want."
>Bontinor nods to Quinlax.
>Amaranth chuckles.
>Bontinor says, "Like I said before, Combat and Crafting will be completely separate."
>Quinlax nods.
>Jacinda says, "Since crafting is separate from Combat you will all start at the same level"
>Quinlax says, "Neat"
>Bontinor says, "You can think of it almost as being two people in one body."
>Quinlax says, "Gives everyone a chance"
>Jacinda nods to Quinlax.
>Quinlax says, "Your lookin at the number one arms and armor smith"
>Quinlax sniffs and looks huffy.
>Attucus asks, "Where?"
>Attucus peers quizzically at Quinlax.
>Quinlax grins at Attucus.
>Nymphette shrugs.
Seni asks, "who?"
>Zanzibar says, "dream on "
>Bontinor says, "When it goes live (...c'mon everyone, say it with me..."soon"...), it'll be as though everyone suddenly has just joined the game for the first time, as far as "
>Seni gazes around at her surroundings.
>Zanzibar laughs at Quinlax.
>Bontinor says, "...crafting goes."
>Llorien nods to Bontinor.
>Gerett tilts his head to the side.
>Nymphette snuggles up close to Zanzibar laying her head on his shoulder.
Zanzibar smiles at Nymphette.
>Zanzibar glances at Nymphette.
>Bontinor says, "So yep. The day it's released, everyone suddenly becomes a level 0 crafter."
>Zanzibar nods to Bontinor.
>Bontinor says, "In addition to whatever their current status."
>You hear the sound of party horns and suddenly a whirlwind of confetti and streamers appears.  When the swirling winds die down the centaur form of GameMaster Jubalee is revealed!
>Llorien says, "Better post that a bunch of times on the boards."
>Lytaria chuckles.
>Zanzibar lets out a howl for Jubalee!
>Llorien grins at Bontinor.
>Seni chuckles.
>Zanzibar licks Jubalee on the hand.
>Nymphette smiles at Jubalee.
>Bontinor says, "And that's why I give you the new head of Crafting, Jubalee."
>Jubalee says, "Ew."
>Bontinor turns toward Jubalee.
>Llorien says, "Partay starts......."
>Llorien exclaims, "NOW!"
>Llorien lets out a hearty cheer for Jubalee!
>Jubalee blinks at Bontinor.
>Zanzibar chuckles at Jubalee.
>Bontinor says, "Just kidding, Jubalee."
>Bontinor nudges Jubalee with his elbow.
>Zanzibar chuckles.
>Jubalee exclaims, "Phew!"
>Jacinda cackles at Jubalee!
>Deryni grins.
>Zanzibar kisses Nymphette on the ear.
>Deryni exclaims, "YOu'd run our poor Jubalee into the ground!"
>Jubalee chuckles.
>Bontinor says, "She can do that on her own."
>Jacinda says, "He's trying to give you a coronary Jubs."
>Nymphette kisses Zanzibar on the cheek.
>Vatholian says, "End up with just a little pile of confetti."
Jacinda leans on Jubalee.
>Jubalee nods to Jacinda.
>Zanzibar says, "well, she is responsible for a bit of the current crafting"
>Seni chuckles at Vatholian.
>Bontinor asks, "But did that enlighten you sufficiently, Quinlax?"
>Zanzibar smiles at Jubalee.
>Jubalee nods to Zanzibar.
>Jubalee smiles.
>Bontinor nods to Zanzibar.
>Quinlax nods to Bontinor.
>Quinlax asks, "You lied right?"
>Cervesus mutters nothin' but settin' 'im on fire enlightens Quinnie
>Zanzibar kisses Nymphette on the hand.
>Jacinda nods to Quinlax.
>Bontinor says, "Oh, certainly not."
>Nymphette grins at Cervesus.
>Jacinda whistles skillfully to herself.
>Zanzibar chuckles at Cervesus.
>Asantewaa chuckles at Cervesus.
>Quinlax says, "Because I didn't want honesty"
>Vatholian nods to Cervesus.
>Bontinor puts one hand behind his back.
>Bontinor says, "I would never lie."
>Nymphette gently strokes Zanzibar's hair.
>Bontinor rubs his hands together.
>Lytaria chuckles at Bontinor.
>Zanzibar laughs at Bontinor.
>Nymphette asks, "is your nose growing?"
>Gammyde coughs.
>Nymphette peers quizzically at Bontinor.
>Zanzibar chuckles at Nymphette.
>Zanzibar tickles Nymphette.
>Cervesus says, "there goes another cherry tree"
>Cervesus sighs.
>Bontinor says, "And so we turn to Vath."
>Bontinor turns toward Vatholian.
>Bontinor asks, "Vatholian? What's on YOUR mind?"
>Calestoa turns toward Vatholian.
>Nymphette snuggles up close to Zanzibar laying her head on his shoulder.
>Vatholian says, "Three things: Will there be player made traps available for creation? Two. Will there be an experimentation factor? Like certain materials work better in the creation of things, like boar skin doesn't work as well as cow skin for creation of leather armor, or certain grapes make a better wine. Third. Will there be a bazaar type thing for players to display their wares but not necessarily be there at the time? Perhaps with someone being able to check quality of item there as well."
>Bontinor says, "My, someone's been busy."
>Lytaria chuckles.
>Nymphette nods to Bontinor.
>Vatholian says, "I had alot of time on my hands."
>Cervesus chuckles.
>Attucus gently strokes Lytaria's hair.
>Calestoa grins at Vatholian.
>Attucus says, "Deryni, take away the time on his hands."
>Attucus flashes his teeth in a quick smile.
>Deryni chortles.
>Deryni starts to say something, then stops.
>Lifting its head, a frothing mermel chitters quietly, as it watches the area alertly.
>Lytaria chuckles.
>Nymphette smirks at Attucus.
>Deryni mutters Nooot gonna say it.
>Vatholian nips Deryni tenderly on her neck.
>Deryni pokes Vatholian in the ribs.
>Vatholian twiddles his thumbs.
>Jubalee says, "That's funny, when I have a lot of time on my hands I don't make up questions.  Each to their own, I guess."
>Attucus grins at Jubalee.
>Jubalee shrugs.
>Asantewaa grins at Jubalee.
>Nymphette grins at Jubalee.
>Seni chuckles at Jubalee.
>Nymphette agrees with Jubalee.
>Jacinda says, "I think ya killed Bontinor"
>Nymphette laughs at Jacinda.
>Jacinda grins at Vatholian.
>Bontinor instructs:

     1) Player-made traps already exist.
     2) Again, depends on how the person who designs that craft crafts the craft.
     3) We're still discussing the idea of consignment.  It's definitely something we want, but we're not sure how to keep the janitor from running off with everything and still keep the displayed items down to something that doesn't boot you offline whenever you look on the counter.

Vatholian says, "Just wouldn't be proper to drag off the wife in the middle of the forum."
>Deryni gives Vatholian a good pinch!
>Vatholian yelps!
>Jubalee grins at Vatholian.
>Vatholian asks, "Also, will there be one overall craft skill or a bunch of little individual ones?"
>Jubalee says, "yes."
>Bontinor considers whether Vatholian has already used up all of his handraisings...
>Jubalee chuckles.
>Nymphette nods to Bontinor.
>Seni chuckles at Bontinor.
>Bontinor says, "It'll be skill-based."
>Deryni peers quizzically at Bontinor.
>Vatholian says, "Doesn't quite answer my question."
>Quinlax chuckles.
>Jacinda says, "More than one"
>Jacinda grins at Vatholian.
>Quinlax grins at Jacinda.
>Attucus says, "S... questionssss"
>Nymphette says, "no answer is an answer"
>Attucus hums!
>Nymphette nods to Vatholian.
>Vatholian says, "Thank you."
>Bontinor says, "The specific skills are still being debated. Everyone has their favorites, but we have to keep it down to something that also doesn't knock you offline when you list 'em out."
>Bontinor says, "But there won't be a different skill for each craft."
>Nymphette gently strokes Zanzibar's hair.
>Vatholian says, "As to player-made traps, I meant something along the lines of like lockpick making, where say we can craft our own caltrops and tripwires and such."
>Zanzibar whispers to himself.
>Nymphette smiles at Zanzibar.
>Vatholian says, "I know we can already make darts which have been put down, and pit traps which take forever."
>Bontinor says, "The idea is that there might be some crafts which will only train one specific skill, but there will be others which train multiple skills. In other words, each skill won't apply to just one craft."
>Arlene winks at Nymphette.
>Vatholian nods.
>Bontinor says, "We actually have GMs lining up to make crafts."
>Deryni grins.
>Bontinor says, "Right now, I don't believe anyone has taken traps."
>Vatholian says, "So a bunch of little ones."
>Jubalee whistles skillfully to herself.
>Bontinor says, "As a craft."
>Jacinda says, "Currently a GM hasn't fessed up to make that (player made traps), but we can add it to the wish list"
>Attucus asks, "So who do we bribe?"
>Attucus flashes his teeth in a quick smile.
>Lytaria says, "well sure, NOW they all WANT to do something"
>Jacinda nods to Bontinor.
>Vatholian says, "Poke someone into it."
>Lytaria grins.
>Bontinor says, "Since trapmaking already exists."
>Bontinor says, "It might be converted, it might not. It depends mostly on whether the trap person wants to redo it as a craft."
>Bontinor searches around for a moment.
>Nymphette winks at Arlene.
>Jubalee says, "trap making is sort of combatty."
>Vatholian says, "Hopefully it will, I've given Dunkel enough of my money."
>Bontinor says, "And since the trap person isn't here, I can't ask for sure."
>Nymphette giggles at Arlene.
>Bontinor asks, "Do you want clarification on 2) or 3) (or 4))?"
>Bontinor peers quizzically at Vatholian.
>Nymphette crosses her fingers.
>Vatholian says, "I think those have been answered properly as best you can."
>Vatholian says, "I'll bring more concerns on traps up should they be considered for crafting."
>Bontinor nods.
>Bontinor says, "Keep in mind that if I'm cagey, it's not always because there's stuff I can't talk about."
>Nymphette says, "oooh secrets"
>Nymphette grins at Bontinor.
>Nymphette says, "very mysterious"
>Lytaria says, "so what else is new"
>Bontinor says, "Sometimes it's because I deliberately don't want to make you think we're doing something in such-and-such way."
>Bontinor says, "Or that something is final."
>Vatholian nods.
>Bontinor grins at Lytaria.
>Lytaria winks at Bontinor.
>Vatholian says, "Nothing is final until its released, and then we get to break it."
>Vatholian hums a happy little tune.
>Jacinda nods to Vatholian.
>Jubalee nods to Vatholian.
>Bontinor says, "And then there was Llorien."
>Llorien says, "On that note, will we just type in Crafting and see what we know? The percentage of what we are to the next level? A goal to reach? Some of us like to know how far until the next level. I'm kind of hoping it's going to be as seperate as you say from combat skills."
>A frothing mermel lifts its head and squeaks in Arlene's ear as it gazes about the area with beady black eyes.
>Bontinor grins at Llorien.
>Llorien smiles at Bontinor.
>Bontinor says, "Who apparently had her name keyed up."
>Llorien says, "For a long time."
>Llorien grins.
>Nymphette grins at Llorien.
>Bontinor exclaims, "Yes!"
>Bontinor beams at Llorien!
>Llorien grins at Bontinor.
>Llorien asks, "Do tell?"
>Vatholian says, "See, you give us lots of time to think."
>Llorien leans on Bontinor.
>Llorien says, "I've been curious about that from the very beginning."
>Attucus gently strokes Lytaria's hair.
>Llorien says, "Besides just yes."
>Bontinor grins at Llorien.
>Zanzibar whispers to himself.
>Llorien asks, "Will we see....leather armor  50% to level 10?"
>Llorien says, "as in another place."
>Lytaria cuddles up next to Attucus.
>Llorien grins.
>Zanzibar laughs at Llorien.
>Quinlax just left.
>Llorien pokes Zanzibar in the ribs.
>Bontinor says, "Yes, I'm happy to say that you'll always be able to call up a list of available crafts."
>Smith Quinlax just arrived.
>Quinlax sits down.
>Bontinor says, "And you'll also be able to call up a list of everything you can make in that craft."
>Zanzibar chuckles at Llorien.
>Llorien says, "Oh, that's great."
>Llorien says, "I like that."
>Bontinor says, "Not necessarily the things that you, personally, can make, but all the available things that craft can make."
>Nymphette winks at Arlene.
>Arlene giggles.
>Llorien asks, "Oh, not what we can do personally?"
>Bontinor says, "You'll have to find out which ones you can/can't make by trial and error."
>Llorien says, "Well phooey."
>Bontinor says, "BUT..."
>Lytaria chuckles.
>Deryni says, "Kinda like with the brawling moves?  Dunno if you can do them until ya try."
>Llorien asks, "BUT?"
>Llorien gazes at Bontinor.
>Bontinor says, "...you'll be able to get some sort of idea, a bit of a hint as to how to start each project, and what the next step on a project might be."
>Lytaria says, "something telle me our house'll smell like smoke for a while...."
>Attucus hums!
>Nymphette asks, "like the adrenal moves?"
>Lytaria grins.
>Lytaria nips Attucus gently on her ear.
>Attucus grins at Lytaria.
>Bontinor looks thoughtfully at Nymphette.
>Bontinor says, "Not sure, exactly."
>Llorien asks, "One other thing, any idea how many skills there will be?"
>Amaranth says, "Adrenals don't offer what the next moves will be but the messaging might be close to that, yeah."
>Nymphette says, "they give hints"
>Vatholian says, "Be a waste of raw materials I think, end up with a jumpled mass after you screw up your attempt at making a cloak out of boar tusks and goblin scalps."
>Nymphette nods to Amaranth.
>Bontinor says, "Again, it's something the craft person will put into their craft."
>Llorien clears her throat.
>Llorien says, "Don't know if you heard me Bontinor."
>Deryni says, "Eeew."
>Deryni mumbles incoherently at Vatholian.
>Llorien asks, "One other thing, any idea how many skills there will be?"
>Bontinor says, "It could be anything from "Perhaps you should find yourself a sharp object." to " Get a knife, stupid!""
>Llorien taps her foot.
>Nymphette gently strokes Zanzibar's hair.
>Bontinor grins at Llorien.
>Bontinor says, "Yes."
>Bontinor says, "And no, I can't say."
>Llorien asks, "quesstimate?"
>Llorien gazes at Bontinor and bats her eyelashes flirtatiously.
>Bontinor says, "But we're looking at about 2-3 dozen right now."
>Vatholian cuddles up next to Deryni.
>Llorien says, "Excellent."
>Llorien says, "Thank you."
>Bontinor says, "Not several hundred, and not 10."
>Nymphette snuggles up close to Zanzibar laying her head on his shoulder.
>Quinlax says, "Only a couple hundred"
>Quinlax nods.
>Attucus nods to Quinlax.
>Bontinor says, "It won't be just "animal, vegetable, mineral," but it won't be "longbow, shortbow, crossbow, heavy crossbow, sling, blowgun, atlatl, slingshot, peashooter, snowball, rock, etc" either."
>Attucus mutters Darn, was looking forward to peashooters too.
>Quinlax says, "I wanna make a rock"
>Nymphette nods to Attucus.
>Lytaria pokes Attucus in the ribs.
>Nymphette says, "I wanna make an animal"
>Cervesus says, "take one outa yer head"
>Nymphette nods.
>Cervesus nods to Quinlax.
>Bontinor says, "In order to make a rock, you first have to take a rock and hit it against another rock."
>Bontinor says, "Then you go from 2 rocks to 3."
>Seni laughs at Cervesus.
>Attucus gazes at Lytaria in child-like innocence.
>Lytaria chuckles.
>Nymphette grins at Cervesus.
>Jubalee says, "Unless your head is hard enough, then you go from one rock to two."
>Lytaria says, "we do not teach our children to shoot food at people"
>Lytaria folds her arms across her chest.
>Llorien says, "pea shooter"
>Attucus says, "Ok, i'll stop."
>Bontinor asks, "Would you like to expand any more, Llorien?"
>Llorien chuckles.
>Gerett says, "Food shooting is a self taught skill."
>Lytaria says, "not in my house"
>Cervesus asks, "peashooter?  ya mean like yer nose?"
>Llorien says, "I keep seeing some mashed potato scene."
>Zanzibar whispers to himself.
>Bontinor peers quizzically at Llorien.
>Llorien chuckles.
>Bontinor asks, "Llorien?"
>Llorien says, "No, I'm good thanks."
>Bontinor nods to Llorien.
>Llorien says, "Well, not 'good'. Done."
>Bontinor grins at Llorien.
>Llorien hums!
>A maroon haze suddenly pours off Llorien's body and falls through the solid surface of the floor!
>Bontinor exclaims, "In that case, wearing #26 for the Barbarians, we have ... Zanzibar!"
>Zanzibar says, "Crafting and hunting will be mutually exclusive activities...so, at any particular time, it becomes a choice of if we want to hunt for exp to level, get coin, etc or improve crafting skills? (Yes or a No w/comment works here) And, how does gadgeteering fit in, if at all, and, if not, what is/will if be for, cause I am giving it alot of weight and not seeing much, if anything, from it. (full response required)  Also, a natural extension would be teaching..we could sit around in groups, craft and teach (this is a half-hearted suggestion since we are going the DR route)."
>Zanzibar says, "there"
>Zanzibar chuckles.
>Llorien says, "Breathe."
>Llorien pats Zanzibar on the shoulder.
>Zanzibar licks Llorien on the hand.
>Preening itself, a frothing mermel chitters quietly on Arlene's shoulder before falling silent.
>Bontinor says, "Breathe, nothing. "buy a new keyboard""
>Zanzibar chuckles at Bontinor.
>Llorien laughs at Bontinor.
>Nymphette grins.
>Zanzibar slaps his palm against Bontinor's palm!
>Nymphette snuggles up close to Zanzibar laying her head on his shoulder.
>Zanzibar kisses Nymphette on the ear.
>Bontinor says, "Let me restate:"

>Zanzibar chuckles.
>Llorien says, "Please no teaching."
>Bontinor says, "Combat and Crafting are completely separate."
>Llorien says, "Zombie world."
>Zanzibar asks, "I realize that, but time wise, you cannot do both at once, correct?"
>Zanzibar asks, "can I hunt and craft?"
>Nymphette grins at Zanzibar.
>Llorien smiles.
>Nymphette says, "you'd be busy"
>Nymphette nods to Zanzibar.
>Zanzibar chuckles.
>Asantewaa says, "But yous can be crafty hunter."
>Bontinor says, "Technically, I suppose you could, though if you are attacked while you are crafting something, you might end up making a mistake with your craft."
>Asantewaa nods to Zanzibar.
>Zanzibar nods to Bontinor.
>Gammyde says, "Trolls might be upset if you're knitting between swings."
>Gammyde nods.
>Zanzibar says, "so this is a gate sitting activity"
>Nymphette giggles at Gammyde.
>Llorien chuckles at Gammyde.
>Zanzibar says, "essentially"
>Bontinor looks thoughtfully at Zanzibar.
>Bontinor says, "Not entirely."
>Zanzibar nods to Bontinor.
>Quinlax says, "It's a alternitive to hunting"
>Bontinor says, "There will probably be a bit more to it than that."
>Deryni lets out a soft purr of satisfaction.
>Zanzibar nods to Bontinor.
>Quinlax says, "an"
>Vatholian grins at Deryni.
>Arlene just left.
>Bontinor says, "Some things will be do-able entirely with things you can carry around."
>Quinlax says, "I'm still dragging you hunting"
>Quinlax nods to Deryni.
>Zanzibar says, "ok..gadgeteering"
>Vatholian kisses Deryni on the ear.
>Bontinor says, "But other things (such as making weaponry) won't be possible anywhere except in some specialized location (a forge, or someplace with the proper equipment)."
>Zanzibar nods to Bontinor.
>Bontinor says, "Again, it depends on the craft itself."
>Zanzibar asks, "premies can get one added to their homes, yes?"
>Gerett says, "Bleh, stinky forges make for stinky people."
>Quinlax sniffs at Gerett.
>Bontinor says, "If they're willing to take the risk of their house burning down, yes."
>Attucus whistles skillfully to himself.
>Zanzibar chuckles.
>Nymphette laughs!
>Zanzibar shakes his head.
>Amaranth says, "You have to build your own forge though and you need a metal hammer to do so."
>Llorien grows visibly calmer.
>Amaranth grins at Zanzibar.
>Zanzibar says, "ahh, I like that"
>Zanzibar throws back his head and howls.
>Amaranth says, "Cath 22"
>Bontinor says, "Stop giving me ideas."
>Zanzibar says, "now we talking"
>Amaranth says, "Catch"
>Bontinor pokes Amaranth in the ribs.
>Amaranth grins at Bontinor.
>Quinlax says, "I have a metal hammer"
>Quinlax nods to Amaranth.
>Bontinor says, "...since I'm the one who'll be doing smithing."
>Gerett just left.
>Amaranth says, "I'm teasing of course"
>Gerett just arrived.
>Zanzibar chuckles at Nymphette.
>Gerett says, "Tarnation."
>Quinlax gazes at Bontinor with a worshipful look on his face.
>Gerett plops down onto the floor.
>Lytaria chuckles.
>Arlene just arrived.
>Bontinor glances at Quinlax.
>Arlene sits down next to Quinlax.
>Bontinor says, "Oh, stop that."
>Attucus gazes at Lytaria.
>Quinlax chuckles.
>Attucus says, "That's who you bribe."
>Attucus nods to Lytaria.
>Lytaria peers quizzically at Attucus.
>Bontinor says, "I've been claiming it for years now."
>Lytaria asks, "huh?"
>Amaranth nods to Bontinor.
>Attucus says, "Smithing."
>Llorien grins at Bontinor.
>Attucus points at Bontinor.
>Llorien says, "I'd say."
>Llorien coughs.
>Lytaria chuckles.
>Zanzibar says, "gadgeteering"
>Zanzibar kisses Nymphette on the fingers.
>Bontinor says, "What about gadgeteering."
>Bontinor peers quizzically at Zanzibar.
>Zanzibar asks, "how will it come into play?"
>Zanzibar says, "supposed to be used to make things..isn't it"
>Bontinor asks, "Is it in the combat skills or the crafting skills?"
>Bontinor peers quizzically at Zanzibar.
>Zanzibar chuckles.
>Zanzibar shakes his head.
>Llorien grins.
>Zanzibar says, "so, it is worthless"
>Zanzibar says, "ok..that answers my questions"
>Bontinor says, "I honestly don't know, Zanzibar."
>Nymphette kisses Zanzibar on the cheek.
>Zanzibar says, "well, that is the problem"
>Zanzibar says, "we were told once long ago..and I know stuff changes"
>Zanzibar exclaims, "gadgeteering..smithing!"
>Bontinor says, "I expect that, since we'll be splitting crafting from combat, there may be some future changes."
>Bontinor says, "But I honestly..."
>Zanzibar nods to Bontinor.
>Bontinor shows both hands.
>Bontinor says, "...haven't heard anything about it."
>Zanzibar says, "after six years, I am still trying to figure out what some of the skills are really for"
>Bontinor says, "The current skill system was designed to try and cover both."
>Bontinor says, "Or rather, to try and cover everything."
>Zanzibar nods to Bontinor.
>Lytaria says, "the operative word here is 'try'"
>Bontinor says, "And when it no longer needs to cover everything..."
>Bontinor shrugs.
>Bontinor asks, "Who knows?"
>Zanzibar asks, "'ok..is there anyone who can tell us what skill are really used for?"
>Bontinor says, "I don't want to go throwing the R-word around willy-nilly, but I wouldn't be at all surprised to hear it mentioned."
>Deryni ponders.
>Zanzibar asks, "what is the R word?"
>Bontinor says, "Some time after crafting is officially released and running for all it's worth."
>Cervesus sticks out his tongue and lets loose with a loud, "Thbtbtbtbt" from his lips!
>Bontinor asks, "Anyone?"
>Gammyde says, "Reallocation."
>Gammyde chuckles.
>Bontinor says, "Thank you, Gammyde."
>Gerett says, "Rabbits."
>Gammyde tilts her head toward Bontinor.
>Gerett snaps his fingers.
>Gammyde grins at Gerett.
>Zanzibar says, "we deserve a few free ones"
>Zanzibar chuckles at Bontinor.
>Nymphette grins at Zanzibar.
>Bontinor says, "Even though you didn't raise your hand."
>Bontinor winks at Gammyde.
>Reign appears in a swirl of silvery mist.
>Gammyde hums!
>Zanzibar says, "thanks Bontinor..Jacinda"
>Gammyde gets a silly grin on her face.
>Attucus mutters man, now it's reigning now.
>Attucus whistles skillfully to himself.
>Lytaria chuckles.
>Arlene glances at Attucus.
>Zanzibar kisses Nymphette softly on the neck.
>Arlene shakes her head, clucking her tongue.
>Reign brushes at his forearm with the back of his hand.
>Attucus smoothes back his hair.
>Zanzibar chuckles at Reign.
>Nymphette gently strokes Zanzibar's hair.
>Bontinor says, "And now...we move on to the talented Mr. Lytaria."
>A mangy black buzzard skitters along Quinlax's shoulder anxiously.  It squawks once before finally settling down.
>Bontinor turns toward Attucus.
>Lytaria laughs!
>Seni snickers at Cervesus.
>Gerett chuckles.
>Attucus throws back his head and gives Bontinor a charming smile and a wink.
>Nymphette throws back her head and howls.
>Zanzibar chuckles at Bontinor.
>Amaranth asks, "Mr?"
>Gerett says, "Attucus."
Gerett nods to Amaranth.
>Lytaria nuzzles Attucus.
>Gammyde giggles.
>Zanzibar asks, "need some help with that foot?"
>Bontinor nods to Amaranth.
>Bontinor grins at Attucus.
>Attucus says, "Ok well I cook at home, as my wife will attest too....."
>Zanzibar laughs!
>Lytaria's eyes narrow and take on a sleepy look as a loud rumbling purr begins to sound from the back of her throat.
>Zanzibar stands up.
>Nymphette stands up.
>Zanzibar pulls Nymphette towards him!
>Attucus asks, "Was wondering if cooking, wine making and the like will be part of this?"
>Deryni lets out a soft purr of satisfaction.
>Bontinor glances at Jacinda.
>Vatholian grins at Deryni.
>Attucus says, "Cause you know I wanna share my gift."
>A cloud of golden sparks suddenly appears in the air, forming the outline of a female Human before resolving into Astraea herself.
>Barbarian Zanzibar just arrived.
>Bontinor whispers to Jacinda.
>Attucus grins.
>Zanzibar clasps Nymphette's hand tenderly.
>Astraea bites Jacinda!
>Zanzibar glances at Asantewaa.
>Lytaria says, "his ultiamte goal is to put Sid out of business"
>Lytaria grins.
>Nymphette says, "like that's competition"
>Attucus says, "Welcome to Bandito's."
>Nymphette grins at Lytaria.
>Attucus whistles skillfully to himself.
>Bontinor nods to Jacinda.
>Gerett says, "As long as he can make malts, I dont care."
>Gerett nods to Lytaria.
>Lytaria chuckles.
>Bontinor says, "Now that you mention it, someone has already expressed an interest in wanting to do the culinary arts as a craft."
>Barbarian Zanzibar just arrived.
>Attucus asks, "Rather put Falafel out of buisness. But you know how hard will that be?"
>Attucus grins.
>Nymphette gazes around at her surroundings.
>Lytaria laughs!
>Attucus lets out a hearty cheer for Bontinor!
>Astraea says, "His food is just falafel."
>Lytaria grins at Astraea.
>A frothing mermel skitters around Arlene's body anxiously.  It squeaks once before finally settling down.
>Quinlax pats Attucus on the shoulder.
>Attucus says, "Ok question answered."
>Attucus grins at Bontinor.
>Barbarian Zanzibar just arrived.
>Asantewaa glances at Zanzibar.
>Zanzibar clasps Nymphette's hand tenderly.
>Attucus says, "Gotta look for some prime land for my chain of restaurants."
>Attucus ponders.
>Bontinor says, "But again, staff changes or lack of interest or the unscheduled landing of a chunk of space rock might change those plans."
>Attucus nods to Quinlax.
>Bontinor says, "However, someone currently DOES want to do that."
>Nymphette peers out.
>Quinlax grins at Attucus.
>Astraea says, "mmmmm space rock."
>Bontinor grins at Attucus.
>Astraea drools.
>Lytaria glances at Astraea.
>Jacinda says, "Currently Leaf will be planning out culinary delights"
>Jacinda grins at Attucus.
>Attucus says, "Ugh veggie meals, bleh."
>Jubalee exclaims, "Scary thought!"
>Seni asks, "lots of greens?"
>Seni giggles at Attucus.
>Bontinor says, "Fancy chocolate-covered beans."
>Jacinda says, "She will have help from Hypatia"
>Bontinor asks, "Who knows?"
>Llorien says, "Better be Atkins."
>Llorien folds her arms across her chest.
>Cervesus asks, "so it'll be like strip-club menus?"
>Astraea tickles Llorien.
>Llorien squirms.
>Attucus says, "Only two kinds of food. Meat and potatoes."
>Attucus gets a silly grin on his face.
>Deryni gazes at Attucus through narrowed eyes and lets out a soft purr of contentment.
>Jubalee says, "No, Leaf wouldn't go for eating greens.  Leaf is not a canibal."
>Llorien says, "No, beer and... ale."
>Llorien pokes Attucus in the ribs.
>Jubalee nods to Llorien.
>Seni giggles at Jubalee.
>Quinlax says, "Malt and more Malt"
>Quinlax nudges Gerett with his elbow.
>Gerett says, "Malts and malts."
>Llorien says, "Malt is in beer."
>Llorien says, "I say malt."
>Llorien nods.
>Vatholian says, "Deryni's goal in life, find and eat all the mashed potatoes in the world."
>Astraea says, "Lettuce talk of many things;of ships and shoes and silly kings;"
>Quinlax says, "She's half way there too"
>Bontinor says, "There are only 4 food groups. Salt, sugar, fat, caffeine."
>Llorien chuckles at Astraea.
>Deryni gives Quinlax a good pinch!
>Quinlax yelps!
>Bontinor says, "But I digress."
>Astraea nods to Bontinor.
>Lytaria says, "yuck"
>Deryni says, "I knew there was a reason why I liked you."
>Deryni grins at Bontinor.
>Attucus gently strokes Lytaria's hair.
>Astraea says, "Wait there is the important fifth group."
>Bontinor asks, "You said your question was answered?"
>Bontinor peers quizzically at Attucus.
>Vatholian chuckles.
>Astraea says, "Alchohol."
>Bontinor snaps his fingers.
>Lytaria says, "you left out booze"
>Lytaria nods to Bontinor.
>Jubalee looks at Astraea and blanches.
>Attucus nods to Bontinor.
>Bontinor says, "I knew I'd forgotten one."
>Llorien chuckles.
>Bontinor says, "I kept thinking nicotine, but that's not a food."
>Jubalee says, "Only if it's a fruity mixed drink."
>Astraea says, "Thats the base of the food period."
>Astraea grins.
>Jubalee says, "That doesn't taste like alchohol."
>Bontinor asks, "Gerett? Did you make it back?"
>Bontinor says, "Ah, there you are."
>Bontinor grins at Gerett.
>Gerett says, "As far as I know."
>Bontinor says, "I remember you vanishing."
>Gerett says, "I remember it to.. scary times."
>Bontinor says, "Didn't see if you'd returned."
>Llorien says, "With a little parasol for Jubalee, and two cherries and a pineapple wedge."
>Llorien leans on Jubalee.
>Jubalee nods to Llorien.
>Gerett asks, "Does your recognition of my prescence imply my turn?"
>Bontinor says, "Only indirectly."
>Jubalee says, "No, you're a figment of our imagination."
>Gerett tilts his head to the side.
>Gerett nods.
>Jubalee says, "Mass hallucination."
>Gerett says, "Truth be told, I just wanted to be on the list."
>Gammyde asks, "I raised my hand earlier, just wondering if I'm on the list?"
>Bontinor exclaims, "And so you are!"
>Llorien chuckles at Gerett.
>Bontinor lets out a hearty cheer for Gerett!
>Llorien gives Gerett a smooch.
>Gerett claps his hands.
>Gerett says, "Mission accomplished, carry on."
>Bontinor says, "Thus your 15 minutes are assured."
>Gammyde says, "I'll take Gerett's turn."
>Gammyde grins.
>Bontinor says, "You can't. You have to take your own turn."
>Gammyde pouts.
>Gerett says, "No, my turn is my turn, you may have your turn."
>Gammyde asks, "Can't I have both?"
>Quinlax asks, "Will he be able to make his own malts?"
>Gammyde sighs.
>Bontinor asks, "Gammyde?"
>Gammyde beams!
>Gammyde asks, "What if we want to be entirely a crafter, not a hunter? Will we be able to sell items we've crafted to the pawnshop just like hunters sell items they've found in treasure? And if so, will the dinar we can make from crafting be on par with the dinar hunters can make from hunting?"
>Cervesus says, "shouldn'ta raised yer hand, Gammy, then ya wouldn'ta had yer own turn"
>Deryni beams at Gammyde!
>Bontinor says, "That balance will have to be worked out. It'll probably boil down to some sort of Player X can make Y dinars per hour of hunting, they should be able to make Y dinars per hour crafting, too."
>Bontinor blinks.
>Gammyde blinks.
>Bontinor says, "Or something equally dry."
>Gammyde laughs!
>Gammyde says, "Ummmm...."
>Gammyde asks, "Okay?"
>Bontinor says, "But the idea is for crafted stuff to not merely be food for the pawnshop."
>Jubalee exclaims, "Eek!  Math!"
>Gammyde says, "Okay."
>Gammyde grins at Jubalee.
>Gerett says, "But food, for craft eating magpies."
>Bontinor says, "Some of it will be immediately useful, like a weapon."
>Attucus gently strokes Lytaria's hair.
>Gammyde asks, "Wasn't that like, calculus or something?"
>Gammyde grins at Jubalee.
>Jubalee exclaims, "Algebra!"
>Bontinor says, "Other stuff might be making components for more complex crafts."
>Deryni says, "Algebra."
>Deryni shudders.
>Asantewaa says, "Algebra"
>The blood slowly drains from Jubalee's face.
>Vatholian says, "Calculus."
>Gerett says, "Earth Science."
>Deryni mutters stupid quadratic formulas.
>Bontinor says, "Then again, someone who specializes in a complex craft might not want to sit around making a ton of simple items."
>Gammyde says, "Well, okay. So we'll still have to hunt to make a decent living."
>Gammyde nods to Bontinor.
>Vatholian says, "Make a logarithmic formula to balance out hunting and craft dinar."
>Leanna pouts at Gammyde.
>Gammyde looks at Leanna and sighs.
>Bontinor says, "They might 'hire' you to make a bunch of materials for them."
>Bontinor says, "Might."
>Gammyde says, "True. Kind of like the old days of alchemy."
>Attucus mutters something about men under his breath.
>Gammyde chuckles.
>Attucus chuckles.
>Lytaria chuckles at Attucus.
>Quinlax hugs Arlene.
>A frothing mermel crawls up on Arlene's shoulder, chittering quickly before settling down.
>Quinlax stands up.
>Lytaria nuzzles Attucus behind the ear.
>Bontinor says, "And there's still the idea of consignment shops, or quest-related stuff."
>Arlene hugs Quinlax.
>Arlene jumps to her feet!
>Attucus mutters not working for Sid, no way, no how.
>Gammyde nods to Bontinor.
>Arlene waves.
>Bontinor says, "And by quest-related, think FF."
>Bontinor says, "Final Fantasy, for those who don't recognize it."
>Attucus asks, "FF?"
>Attucus says, "Oh"
>Vatholian gets a sudden twitch in his eye.
>Lytaria waves.
>Jubalee exclaims, "I love FF!"
>Vatholian says, "Which Final Fantasy"
>Attucus says, "Thought it was the Fantastic Four for a second."
>Attucus grins.
>Lytaria says, "ninty two"
>(Deryni has a really blank look on her face.)
>Gammyde grins at Deryni.
>Vatholian gives Lytaria a little prod between the shoulder blades.
>Lytaria grins.
>Astraea exclaims, "Flame on!"
>Attucus nods to Astraea.
>Cervesus exclaims, "it's clobberin' time!"
>Lytaria grins at Cervesus.
>Quinlax ponders.
>Vatholian says, "Later Final Fantasy quests are quite long and quite complex."
>Bontinor says, "These are the "Bring a <thing> to the shopkeeper in Athens" and when you do, he says, "Thank you, I've been waiting for that. As your reward, take this <widget> that I have no more use for. In fact, I think <NPC> in <place> was looking for one of these.""
>Bontinor says, "You know, usual quest stuff."
>Llorien grins at Bontinor.
>Llorien nods to Bontinor.
>Quinlax says, "Like the job"
>Deryni says, "Aaaah"
>Quinlax says, "system we have now"
>Bontinor says, "Again, they'll end up being whatever people decide to make of them."
>Attucus gently strokes Lytaria's hair.
>Bontinor says, "Close to it, anyway."
>Gammyde nods to Bontinor.
>Vatholian says, "Brings to mind Cloud's crossdressing quest in FF7."
>Llorien snickers.
>Jubalee chuckles at Vatholian.
>Bontinor says, "Who knows...you may find a new, craft-related exit from Hades opening at some point."
>Jubalee says, "That's fun."
>Attucus says, "Sounds like a job for Quin."
>Attucus nods to Vatholian.
>Attucus smiles.
>Bontinor chuckles at Attucus.
>Bontinor says, "There's something."
>Bontinor says, "Hope that Quin gets killed so he can come make the exit gadget for you in Hades."
>Bontinor says, "That ought to be worth a few dinar."
>Attucus says, "No, no Vath mentioned cross-dressing."
>Attucus flashes his teeth in a quick smile.
>Jacinda mutters he dies enough
>Cervesus looks over at Jacinda and shakes his head.
>Cervesus says, "he could die lots more"
>Jacinda grins at Cervesus.
>Jacinda ponders.
>Bontinor says, "And that brings us to the end of our Q&A list."
>Reign dissolves in a shower of silvery sparks.
>Jacinda turns her hand slightly... energy begins to crackle around it.
>Attucus ponders.
>Asantewaa ducks her head.
>Bontinor says, "I'd like to take this moment to reassure you that advancing in crafting will not be as simple as burying yourself up to the neck in crafted castoffs."
>Lytaria snaps her fingers.
>Bontinor says, "ie, Zombifying."
>Reign appears in a swirl of silvery mist.
>Attucus asks, "I hope that you gm's will watch for afk scripting?"
>Attucus smiles.
>Lytaria grins.
>Lifting its beak, a mangy black buzzard squawks harshly, as it watches the area alertly.
>Bontinor says, "We shouldn't have to as much as you'd think."
>Attucus says, "I come from MO, I know all about raising skills"
>Bontinor says, "For one thing, you won't be able to do more than one craft at a time."
>Jubalee says, "I zap zombies dead."
>Bontinor says, "That is, you won't be able to actively do more than one craft at a time."
>Attucus nods to Bontinor.
>Attucus asks, "But you could still run a script I assume?"
>Attucus peers quizzically at Bontinor.
>Bontinor says, "You can half-finish a bunch of crafts and keep 'em handy for when you're bored."
>Bontinor says, "Or you can whittle, whittle, whittle, whittle so long as you don't leave whittling."
>Attucus nods.
>Bontinor says, "Even if you rotate between several projects."
>Bontinor says, "But we'll be able to tell."
>Attucus says, "What if you make a script to say carve the same thing over and over and over...."
>Attucus says, "Ok"
Attucus nods.
>Bontinor says, "Oh sure, you can run a script."
>Attucus asks, "And not be there?"
>Attucus grins.
>Bontinor nods.
>Bontinor says, "We'll be able to tell, though."
>Attucus says, "Good deal."
>Vatholian says, "They see things."
>Gerett says, "Well if you hit hour 15 of whittle whittle whittle, I'm sure they'll prod you once or twice."
>Lytaria chuckles.
>Cervesus raises his hand.
>Lytaria says, "before they zap you"
>Jubalee turns her hand slightly... energy begins to crackle around it.
>Bontinor grins.
>Bontinor says, "Let's just say we'll be able to see how busy you are."
>Cervesus nods to Seni.
>Seni waves.
>Seni stands up.
>Llorien says, "And I'll be reporting zombies too."
>Llorien folds her arms across her chest.
>Bontinor asks, "Cervesus? Again with the elevated hands?"
>Bontinor asks, "What is it this time?"
>Cervesus asks, "will there be some sort of crafting experience pool?"
>Bontinor says, "Ah, good question."
>Cervesus asks, "so we fill up as with combat?"
>Bontinor says, "Answer. No."
>Bontinor says, "Each skill is its own pool."
>Bontinor says, "You only get better in the ones you do."
>Cervesus nods.
>Jacinda says, "You essentially learn as you make an item."
>Quinlax just left.
>Bontinor nods to Jacinda.
>Jubalee says, "So you don't get better at sewing while you're sculpting."
>Cervesus asks, "but there's no point of diminishing return for hours of repetition?  other than Jubes or Jacinda blasting you to Tartarus?"
>Jubalee smiles at Cervesus.
>Attucus says, "Hmm, sculpting."
>Attucus gazes tenderly at Lytaria.  Aw, how sweet.
>Bontinor says, "And making a stew might make you better at alloying metals, but only because both share some aspect of regulating mixtures."
>Attucus smiles.
>Vatholian says, "Hmm, there's beef in my steel."
>Llorien chuckles.
>Cervesus says, "carbon"
>Llorien exclaims, "No, there's steel in my beef!"
>Cervesus nods to Vatholian.
>Bontinor says, "There's fast food for ya."
>Attucus says, "No better way to get iron in your diet."
>Bontinor says, "Two great tastes that taste great together."
>Gammyde snorts.
>Llorien chuckles.
>Llorien asks, "Steef, the other white meat? weapon?"
>Jubalee says, "Better than beel."
>Llorien grins at Jubalee.
>Bontinor says, "As for the diminishing returns, we're looking at a couple things to keep that down."
>Cervesus says, "oh, I dunno, there's always beel scallopini"
>Cervesus nods to Jubalee.
>Jubalee chuckles at Cervesus.
>Llorien asks, "Steef Stroganoff?"
>Bontinor says, "One is that you'll 'outgrow' whatever you're doing, and won't be able to get better until you find something more challenging."
>Cervesus nods to Llorien.
>Bontinor says, "Similar to lifting weights."
>Cervesus nods.
>Attucus ponders.
>Attucus asks, "Outgrow cooking?"
>Attucus gasps!
>Gerett asks, "So that mean if you stop crafting it, your crafting muscles will grow soft and flabby?"
>Vatholian says, "Outgrow certain foods I'd suspect."
>Bontinor says, "The other way is to implement some sort of tracking device."
>Vatholian says, "Can't make toast forever."
>Vatholian nods to Attucus.
>Bontinor says, "Which is still being puzzled."
>Attucus says, "Sorry love but I cant cook any better so i'll have to do something else from now on."
>Attucus grins.
>Jacinda says, "More like outgrow making porridge and move to something else that is harder to do"
>Jubalee says, "Well, soon you'll stop learning from boiling water and you'll have to actually make tea to learn."
>Jacinda grins at Attucus.
>Bontinor nods to Jubalee.
>Bontinor says, "Exactly."
>Jacinda nods to Jubalee.
>Attucus says, "Oh ok then"
>Gerett says, "Bleh, down with tea."
>Jubalee asks, "Hot cocoa?"
>Gerett says, "That'll do."
>Vatholian says, "With marshmallows."
>(Attucus gazes at Lytaria and says So how many meals can you handle porridge anyway?)
>Bontinor says, "When you get to the point where you'll have to make 10000 paper cranes in order to level in origami, you'll probably have to retire that script."
>Cervesus chuckles.
>Cervesus says, "tough luck, Gammy"
>Gerett says, "Or flood us with paper cranes, which ever appeals to you more at the time."
>Vatholian says, "Death by paper cuts."
>Jubalee nods to Vatholian.
>Bontinor chuckles at Vatholian.
>Bontinor says, "And since different tasks can each be coded with different steps, while we can't force you to do everything by hand, we might be able to force you to constantly redo your scripts."
>Attucus says, "Cool deal."
>Attucus nods to Bontinor.
>Bontinor says, "Or just time you and up your failure rate the longer you go."
>Bontinor shrugs.
>Bontinor says, "There's lots we can do."
>Jubalee says, "Cramp your hands like whittling does now."
>Bontinor says, "Just a matter of how many we want to add."
>Cervesus nods.
>Bontinor says, "Think of it this way, though."
>Bontinor says, "While you're waiting out your crafting rest period, you can hunt. And vice-versa."
>Deryni wrinkles her nose.
>Vatholian gently strokes Deryni's hair.
>Llorien says, "That's exactly how I think of it already."
>Gerett says, "Or sit at the gate and take up space."
>Cervesus says, "that's what I was wonderin', really -- will there be a craftin' rest period, however it's generated"
>Bontinor says, "It'll give you something to do while you're waiting for the pulses to decay."
>Jubalee nods to Gerett.
>Llorien nods to Bontinor.
>Llorien says, "and vice versa."
>Bontinor looks over at Cervesus and shakes his head.
>Llorien grins at Bontinor.
>Jubalee says, "Ew decayed pulses."
>Bontinor says, "Not for 'Crafting,' but for 'whittling' or 'carving' or 'cooking' or 'fletching' or 'sculptingk,' sure."
>Amaranth says, "Or in the case of winery, while the sugars are fermenting"
>Cervesus nods.
>Bontinor nods.
>Jubalee ponders.
>Lytaria snuggles up close to Attucus laying her head on his shoulder.
>Bontinor says, "There's some crafts which might have a time component."
>Bontinor says, "ie, you do so many steps, and then one of the steps is, "Wait for 30 days.""
>Attucus nods.
>Attucus gently strokes Lytaria's hair.
>Amaranth says, "Watch the grass you just sowed grow."
>Amaranth snickers.
>Lytaria asks, "now is that 30 days  GAME time?"
>Deryni says, "Hehehe, a house, with a sculpting studio, a forge, a wine cellar, and a kitchen."
>Bontinor says, "We'll literally be able to do whatever we want to."
Deryni giggles.
>Bontinor grins at Lytaria.
>Lytaria grins.
>Bontinor says, "I've already been toying with the idea of something like that."
>Bontinor says, "Correction."
>Jubalee says, "Like a kiln, if you've done any ceramics....you have to put the item in the kiln and leave it there for a while."
>Deryni groans at Jubalee.
>Bontinor says, "We'll be able to do whatever we can make happen, or get someone else to make happen."
>Cervesus says, "might be even longer, if you're making wine or liquor and need to age it"
>Bontinor grins.
>Deryni exclaims, "It takes forever!"
>Gammyde says, "Man, a 30 day RT. "
>Gammyde chuckles.
>Jubalee grins at Gammyde.
>Vatholian kisses Deryni on the ear.
>Vatholian says, "You just go and do somethin else then."
>Jubalee says, "Cheese."
>Bontinor says, "Oh, you might only have a 15 second RT, but you'll ruin the item if you don't wait out the full 30 days afterwards."
>Cervesus nods to Jubalee.
>Bontinor says, "Or noticeably reduce its quality."
>Gammyde says, "I'll be lucky if I can remember what I was doing 30 minutes ago, much less 30 days."
>Vatholian says, "Your jug is firing so you go and make the wine to go in it."
>Gammyde mutters something under her breath.
>Vatholian nods to Deryni.
>Bontinor says, "for instance, if you wait too long between removing the iron from the fire and beginning to pound on it."
>Cervesus says, "so ya wind up makin' Ripple"
>Bontinor says, "Or Boone's Farm."
>Deryni says, "Jug might crack cause ya didn't... ooh, can't think of the word, beat the air pockets out of the clay."
>Gammyde grins.
>Deryni nods to Vatholian.
>Cervesus nods to Bontinor.
>Jubalee nods to Deryni.
>Gerett says, "30 days? Good thing I'm gonna focus on weapon and armor creation, that should only take a week or two."
>Jubalee says, "Not kneaded enough."
>Deryni says, "That sucks when it happens too."
>Deryni grins at Jubalee.
>Jubalee says, "Sure does."
>Bontinor asks, "When you make a kiln bomb?"
>Bontinor nods to Deryni.
>Deryni grins at Bontinor.
>Bontinor says, "'specially if you had anything else in there with it."
>Jubalee says, "or if you don't have an air hole sometimes when you need one."
>Lytaria chuckles.
>Vatholian says, "I'm not pottery compliant."
>Deryni nods to Bontinor.
>Lytaria grins at Vatholian.
>Gammyde says, "He needs an upgrade."
>Gammyde grins at Deryni.
>Attucus gently strokes Lytaria's hair.
>Deryni says, "Or the walls are too thick and it doesn't fire right."
>Bontinor says, "Only thing I can really promise is that there are going to be some things you'll never be able to make."
>Jubalee mutters something under her breath.
>Deryni says, "Or they're too thin and too fragile."
>Deryni grins at Jubalee.
>Bontinor says, "Portable generators, for instance."
>Jubalee says, "I cracked a plate I made just last week in the kiln."
>Lytaria laughs!
>Attucus snaps his fingers.
>Deryni pats Jubalee on the croup.
>Cervesus asks, "F-14s?"
>Bontinor says, "Or automobiles."
>Bontinor grins at Cervesus.
>Bontinor says, "You get the picture."
>Attucus says, "I was hoping to toss a portable generator in the cooking pot on week three too."
>Lytaria says, "so much for turning Athens into Tech Valley"
>Attucus sighs.
>Vatholian says, "Aww, but I was so looking forward to rerouting a river so I could make a waterwheel"
>Cervesus asks, "tactical nukes for the overhunter crowd?"
>Bontinor looks thoughtfully at Vatholian.
>Amaranth says, "Wanderstar will likely have you making flying zombified pigs though."
>Deryni says, "Would be neat if we could make Chariots."
>Bontinor says, "If you decide to become a miller, you might be able to do that."
>Deryni exclaims, "Yah!  Mule!  Yah!"
>Vatholian says, "He's lookin at me funny."
>Lytaria exclaims, "Come one come all! you've heard of the crystalwave oven, now here's the crystal generator!"
>Jubalee asks, "Wrapping an insulated wire around a screw 1000 times to make a magnet?"
>Gammyde asks, "Is that what killed him awhile ago?"
>Gammyde grins at Amaranth.
>Bontinor says, "Or rent the facility that lets you do that."
>Llorien says, "Thanks to you all for the forum, I have to get a nap though. Good evening friends."
>Llorien stands up.
Bontinor waves at Llorien.
>Jubalee smiles at Llorien.
>Llorien waves.
>Jubalee says, "Sleep well."
>Cervesus waves at Llorien.
>Vatholian asks, "We have insulated wire?"
>Bontinor exclaims, "Thanks for coming!"
>Llorien says, "Thank you all."
>Llorien waves.
>Astraea bites Llorien!
>Gammyde hugs Llorien.
>Llorien says, "Looking forward to this."
>Jubalee says, "Only if you make it, Vatholian."
>Llorien tickles Astraea.
>Astraea giggles.
>Llorien hugs Gammyde.
>Llorien adjusts the fit of her ring.
>Llorien turns an engraved silver ring and gives a shiver as she fades from sight.
>Jubalee says, "But I highly doubt it'd be a real craft."
>Deryni exclaims, "So!  I have a question!"
>You hear the voice of Llorien say, "Night night"
>Bontinor asks, "Yes, Deryni?"
>Gammyde says, "She didn't raise her hand."
>Gammyde grumbles.
>Bontinor says, "There's no line."
>Cervesus tickles Gammyde.
>Reign dissolves in a shower of silvery sparks.
>Vatholian says, "She's special."
>Gammyde says, "Ohhhh sure, now there ain't."
>Jubalee exclaims, "Quick raise your hand!"
>Gammyde grins.
>Deryni asks, "With alot of these crafts, like forging and sculpting for example, needing a place to work, are there going to be workshops to rent?  Or would you do them in your home?  Or what?"
>Deryni smiles.
>Leanna just left.
>Bontinor says, "We're figuring that crafts like that are not going to be among the first ones that get released."
>Deryni nods.
>Leanna just arrived.
>Bontinor says, "Just because we'll have to build those special places."
>Deryni nods.
>Gerett says, "Aww.. special places.."
>Deryni asks, "But things like that will be available eventually?"
>Jacinda pulls her hand back to her opposite side and backhands at the air with an upward swing.
>Gerett reels with an invisible force and is launched into the air through a shimmering portal that opens for a moment!
>Jacinda whistles skillfully to herself.
>Gammyde giggles.
>Cervesus applauds.
>Bontinor says, "Again, you'll have to do them in whatever conditions the designer of the craft says you have to do them."
>A shimmering portal opens up in the air, out of which falls Gerett, who lands with a thud!
>Vatholian chortles.
>Jacinda curtsies.
>Gerett grunts.
>Jacinda pats Gerett on the shoulder.
>Gerett says, "Sheesh."
>Gammyde asks, "Was he thinking wistfully about the mentor closet?"
>Gammyde snickers.
>Attucus asks, "Hmmm, so ok some crafts get released before others and say we from an RP point arent interested in them, then we're behind cause we're true to our character?"
>Gerett shakes his fist!
>Attucus pants.
>Cervesus winces.
>Jacinda reaches down, yanks Gerett up into the air then plops him back down onto his feet!
>Jubalee chuckles at Gammyde.
>Jacinda reaches down to Gerett and pulls a piece of lint away from his head.
>Gerett mumbles something under his breath.
>Gerett takes a moment to dust himself off.
>Gammyde grins at Jubalee.
>Gerett exclaims, "He said it first!"
>Gerett points at Bontinor.
>Deryni grins at Gammyde.
>Attucus says, "Oh yeah and..."
>Attucus raises his hand.
>Lytaria nuzzles Attucus.
>Jubalee says, "Yeah, but he hits back."
>Attucus nods to Bontinor.
>Calestoa stands up.
>Gerett mumbles something under his breath.
>Gerett plops down onto the floor.
>Gerett folds his arms across his chest.
>Lytaria gives Gerett a smooch.
>Jubalee says, "Although I missed what was said."
>Jacinda says, "You wouldn't be behind on the new crafts that are coming out later"
>Jubalee says, "Oh."
>Attucus says, "But we would on the ones already out, if we're true to ourselves."
>Jacinda says, "So if smithing comes out 2 months are the inital crafts everyone starts it then."
>Attucus ponders.
>Jacinda says, "Correct but if you aren't interested in them you really aren't behind"
>Jacinda grins at Attucus.
>Lytaria exclaims, "oh!"
>Lytaria raises her hand.
>Gammyde says, "But you don't want to do them, Attucus"
>Attucus says, "Well if you wanna look at it that way."
>Bontinor says, "Hang on while I scroll back up."
>Attucus grins at Jacinda.
>Jacinda grins.
>Bontinor says, "You'll be behind in anything you don't do."
>Cervesus asks, "who's gonna learn every single craft, anyway?"
>Cervesus peers quizzically at Attucus.
>Bontinor says, "You can always find something else that trains the same skills."
>Deryni raises her hand.
>Deryni grins at Cervesus.
>Jacinda grins at Cervesus.
>Bontinor says, "Or not, as they exist."
>Deryni exclaims, "I would!"
>Gammyde says, "If someone is better at leather armor than you are, but you don't care about leather armor, it doesn't matter. When cooking comes out you'll work on that."
>Cervesus chuckles.
>Lytaria flails her arms about.
>Cervesus says, "yeah, I reckon ya would at that"
>Jacinda nods to Gammyde.
>Lytaria exclaims, "QUESTION!!!!!"
>Lytaria grins.
>Attucus gently strokes Lytaria's hair.
>Bontinor says, "Remember...there's that finite list of skills, which get combined in different ways depending on the craft in question."
>Lytaria asks, "Dray wants to make her own instruments, is that in the works for teller types?"
>Deryni says, "Oooo..."
>Bontinor says, "And ideally there will be other crafts that get added later, so you'll never know exactly what's coming."
>Vatholian grins at Deryni.
>(Lytaria whispers to Attucus, "was that the answer?")
>(Attucus whispers to Lytaria 'I'm not sure.)
>Bontinor asks, "Does that answer your question, Attucus?"
>Gammyde grins.
>Attucus nods to Bontinor.
>Attucus says, "I think so yeah."
>Attucus ponders.
>Lytaria gazes around at her surroundings.
>Bontinor asks, "Then what was that you were asking?"
>Bontinor peers quizzically at Lytaria.
>Lytaria grins.
>Lytaria asks, "Dray wants to make her own instruments, is that in the works for teller types?"
>Attucus grins.
>Jacinda says, "It's on a wish list but there isn't a GM currently working it."
>Bontinor says, "Nobody has committed to it, but I know there's interest."
>Attucus mutters who do we bribe?
>Gammyde asks, "I think he was worried that he'll have to learn leather armor, even though it's untrue to his character, in order to learn cooking at a later date?"
>Gammyde ponders.
>Attucus says, "No"
>Attucus grins at Gammyde.
>Gammyde says, "Okay. Sorry."
>Gammyde grins at Attucus.
>Gammyde clamps her hands over her mouth.
>Lytaria chuckles.
>Attucus says, "Cause my food wont taste like leather, but thanks."
>Lytaria gives Gammyde a smooch.
>Gammyde asks, "No steef, huh?"
>Lytaria laughs!
>Gammyde grins at Attucus.
>Lytaria says, "mine might"
>Bontinor says, "Steef! It's what's for slaughter."
>Lytaria grins.
>Jubalee says, "I already have stampers in whittling, and with the new crafting system it would be a lot easier to add whittling parts of instruments to be put together later than it currently is."
>Deryni says, "Okay!  I need to run off.  "
>Deryni stands up.
>Gammyde hugs Deryni.
>Lytaria nods to Jacinda.
>Lytaria babbles incoherently.
>Deryni hugs Gammyde.
>Vatholian stands up.
>Vatholian gives Deryni a lingering kiss.
>Lytaria nods to Jubalee.
>Jacinda grins at Lytaria.
>Bontinor nods.
>Deryni says, "Thank you very much for arranging the forum.  I really do appreciate the GMs coming down and answering questions and that type of thing."
>Deryni nods.
Lytaria mutters something about tangled fingers.
>Deryni kisses Vatholian on the lips.
>Gammyde agrees with Deryni.
>Deryni smiles.
>Bontinor says, "One of the ideas behind the new crafting is that adding a new project to a craft is as simple as adding the steps and the finished product into the current craft, rather than having to totally rewrite it."
>Deryni exclaims, "Good night!"
>Bontinor says, "We get bored of the ivory tower sometimes, too."
>Jubalee mutters Although I'm not about to put in crafting strings for instruments...although we do have a ton of stray kittens.....
>Bontinor says, "It's very stark."
>Vatholian chortles at Jubalee.
>Gammyde glances at Jubalee.
>Cervesus asks, "ah, so we'll be able to build ivory towers?"
>Gammyde scowls.
>Lytaria gasps at Jubalee!
>Bontinor says, "Catgut comes from goats/sheep, anyway."
>Gammyde gazes at Bontinor and releases a long sigh of relief.
>Jubalee chuckles.
>Vatholian mutters reminds me my violin needs new strings.
>Lytaria folds her arms across her chest.
>Lytaria sticks her nose in the air.
>Attucus gently strokes Lytaria's hair.
>Vatholian mutters at least the E anyway.
>Bontinor says, "No, no ivory towers."
>Cervesus snaps his fingers.
>Bontinor says, "Structures will be added much later, if at all."
>Lytaria grins.
>Vatholian asks, "How about an onyx one?"
>Vatholian says, "A big pretty black tower."
>Reign appears in a swirl of silvery mist.
>Bontinor says, "again. Later, if at all."
>Vatholian says, "With seige weapons."
>Vatholian chortles.
>Bontinor says, "You can still build them out of dreams, though."
>Bontinor says, "At no cost."
>Lytaria chuckles.
>Vatholian says, "Dreams don't create mass destruction in the general vicinity."
>Lytaria shakes her head at Vatholian and clucks her tongue.
>Jubalee nods to Jacinda.
>Cervesus says, "depends whose dreams they are"
>Bontinor says, "Well, not ACTUAL destruction."
>Vatholian asks, "Is it so wrong to completely control a little plot of land by firing a ballista at anyone who comes within range?"
>Lytaria says, "yes"
>Vatholian says, "Just no fun."
>Gammyde mutters something about men under her breath.
>Reign says, "Generally it's seen as a bad thing."
>Attucus says, "You wanna do that move to Rome."
>Vatholian says, "I'm... uh... protecting the environment."
>Attucus grins at Vatholian.
>Lytaria raises an eyebrow in Vatholian's direction.
>Bontinor says, "It's certainly one way to paint the town red./"
>Lytaria says, "well, if it's Rome, you have MY blessing to balista them to Hades"
>Lytaria nods to Vatholian.
>Vatholian says, "I think I'll follow my wife before any more ideas pop up in my head."
>Vatholian waves.
>Jubalee chuckles at Vatholian.
>Lytaria waves at Vaftel.
>Gammyde waves at Vatholian.
>Lytaria waves at Vatholian.
>Bontinor grins.
>Vatholian just left.
>Lytaria wiggles her fingers.
>Bontinor says, "Well, that's another down."
>Attucus hums!
>Lytaria chuckles.
>Bontinor says, "8 people remain."
>Bontinor asks, "Do any of these 8 people have any other questions nagging their hindbrains?"
>Attucus asks, "Last one left gets to begin their chosen craft?"
>Attucus gazes hopefully at Bontinor.
>Leanna grins.
>Lytaria chuckles.
>Cervesus laughs!
>Bontinor says, "Otherwise, I'm considering wrapping the forum up at a relatively early Midnight."
>Gerett says, "If at some point we can open our own stores or something with our crafts.."
>Bontinor says, "I am truly astounded at how smoothly this forum went, too."
>Jubalee yawns.
>Attucus says, "Sorry bout that./"
Gerett asks, "Will we be able to have hostile takeovers?"
>Attucus grins at Bontinor.
>Bontinor says, "At first it's going to be consignment, I'm sure of that."
>Gammyde stands up.
>Gerett nods.
>(Gammyde's knees crack loudly as she stands.)
>Astraea bites Jacinda!
>Astraea bites Amaranth!
>Cervesus says, "actually, considerin' how many things are still sorta imponderable, I think ya answered the questions pretty good"
>Astraea bites Bontinor!
>Gammyde leans on her staff of storms.
>Cervesus chuckles.
>Bontinor says, "Or rather, I'm sure that some central shop will exist for showing off your wares before you get to make your own private place."
>Jacinda bites Astraea!
>Astraea bites Reign!
>Astraea bites Jubalee!
>Reign babbles incoherently.
>Attucus gently strokes Lytaria's hair.
>Jubalee bites Astraea!
>Lytaria raises an eyebrow.
>Jacinda reaches out and gives Astraea a shock!
>Astraea says, "He he"
>Jacinda whistles skillfully to herself.
>Gerett nods to Bontinor.
>Astraea bites Jacinda!
>Cervesus stands up.
>Bontinor says, "All Hades is going to break loose when it comes out, regardless of what we plan for."
>Jacinda grins at Astraea.
>Astraea exclaims, "Mooo.!"
>Jubalee says, "Well, Hades is kind of cute...but he's taken."
>Lytaria releases a slow, low whistle.
>Jacinda asks, "Do ya give milk too?"
>Jacinda peers quizzically at Astraea.
>Attucus nuzzles Lytaria.
>Astraea asks, "Mew?"
>Jacinda giggles at Astraea.
>Cervesus asks, "well, ya could start out with somethin' real simple like cow-tippin', eh?"
>(Lytaria whispers to Attucus, "the're all nuts...")
>Cervesus says, "that'd cut down on the problems at first"
>(Attucus whispers to Lytaria, "Your just now noticing?)
>Lytaria vigorously shakes her head.
>(Asantewaa whispers to Lytaria, "It's part of the job.)
>Lytaria chuckles.
>Bontinor says, "To give you some idea of how soon 'soon' might be in this case, we're actually up to the point where we're testing some of Crafting's features."
>Gerett jumps to his feet!
>Attucus throws back his head and howls.
>Lytaria asks, "wow! so 'soon' might be THIS millenium?"
>Cervesus asks, "for the basic system, or for specific crafts?"
>Bontinor says, "This century, even."
>Cervesus peers quizzically at Bontinor.
>Jubalee says, "Maybe."
>Lytaria lets out a hearty cheer for Bontinor!
>Bontinor says, "But right now, all you can do is whittle a marshmallow skewer."
>Attucus says, "Well since yanno Leanna and I helped Holyph test the city of the dead thingy, I'm free."
>Lytaria chuckles.
>Attucus whistles skillfully to himself.
>Leanna grins at Attucus.
>Bontinor says, "Oh no. We're not up to that point yet."
>Reign says, "It's refreshing when the guinea pigs come to you."
>Bontinor nods to Reign.
>Lytaria squints at Reign.
>Bontinor says, "It sure beats having to track them all down."
>Attucus says, "I'll leave my card with your secretary."
>Attucus grins.
>Jacinda stretches out a hand imploringly to Attucus.
>Jubalee says, "I've got a whole society of volunteers."
>Astraea exclaims, "Alrightie!"
>Jubalee says, "They're called mentors."
>Jubalee whistles skillfully to herself.
>Asantewaa squints at Jubalee.
>Cervesus says, "targets, ya mean"
>Astraea says, "Enough fun for me. :)"
>Cervesus nods to Jubalee.
>Bontinor says, "I think we'll let Hosts have first crack at it."
>Gammyde grins at Jubalee.
>Astraea waves.
>Attucus winks at Jacinda.
>Astraea curtsies.
>Astraea dissolves in a shower of silvery sparks.
>Astraea bites Jacinda!
>Jubalee chuckles at Bontinor.
>Astraea bites Jubalee!
>You hear someone giggling.
>Lytaria chuckles.
>Reign shakes his head.
>Reign says, "And people wonder why I have the armor."
>Jubalee bites Astraea even though she ran away and hid in the shadows.
>Jacinda says, "I need to get that darned woman a teething ring"
>Gammyde giggles.
>Astraea bites Reign!
>Bontinor grins at Reign.
>Reign flails his arms about.
>Astraea bites Bontinor!
>Bontinor shows Reign his protective aura.
>Gammyde exclaims, "Be well, everyone!"
>Gammyde waves.
>Astraea bites Jacinda!
>Bontinor taps a protective aura.
>Bontinor waves at Gammyde.
>Astraea bites Jubalee!
>You hear the voice of Astraea exclaim, "Ta TA!"
>Lytaria waves.
>Bontinor says, "As if it weren't already official, I declare this forum officially over."
>Lytaria babbles incoherently.
>Cervesus nods.
>Lytaria stands up.
>Leanna grins at Bontinor.
>Asantewaa jumps to her feet!